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Old 12-14-05, 02:53 AM   #121
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Default Re: 1.0-8174 for Linux x86 released

I didn't know exactly where to put this, so here

Since I installed the latest drivers (1.0-8174) switch to fullscreen in my VMWare windows seems a lot slower. Both KDE and the OS use the same resolution, 1280x1024. With the old drivers it was instant (like fullscreening a video), with these it takes about 4-5 seconds to switch to and forth. It is like it is changing the resolution to something and changing it again to 1280x1024. Found it kinda weird.

Not a bug perse, but definitely a regression.
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Old 12-14-05, 04:21 AM   #122
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Still working on it - more in a few, incl. logs.
Here's a log that actually says what's not working; the last one was from a system hang.

it seems the big complaints are with usage of prefetch_range and check_signature; the prefetch_range problem I can find similar refernces to in several other places, with older nvidia drivers and older kernels; it seems that compiling without -Wpointer-arith may get rid of that particular error, but I don't see how killing that gcc warning makes the driver compile.

specific error section (recurs):
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In file included from include/linux/list.h:7,
from include/linux/wait.h:23,
from include/asm/semaphore.h:41,
from include/linux/sched.h:20,
from include/linux/module.h:10,
from /tmp/selfgz6479/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8174-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv-linux.h:47,
from /tmp/selfgz6479/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8174-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv-vm.c:14:
include/linux/prefetch.h: In function `prefetch_range':
include/linux/prefetch.h:62: warning: pointer of type `void *' used in arithmetic
In file included from include/linux/dmapool.h:14,
from include/linux/pci.h:520,
from /tmp/selfgz6479/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8174-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv-linux.h:71,
from /tmp/selfgz6479/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8174-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv-vm.c:14:
include/asm/io.h: In function `check_signature':
include/asm/io.h:257: warning: wrong type argument to increment
---

and the kernel messages:
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nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_enable_device
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_dev_put
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_get_device
nvidia: Unknown symbol __pci_register_driver
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_bus_write_config_byte
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_unregister_driver
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_bus_read_config_dword
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_bus_read_config_word
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_bus_write_config_dword
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_set_master
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_bus_write_config_word
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_get_class
nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_bus_read_config_byte
---

In case those aren't actually the important parts, the log is attached.
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Old 12-14-05, 04:22 AM   #123
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Default Re: 1.0-8174 for Linux x86 released

(running 2.6.15-rc5-mm2, as per previous message, on last page)
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Old 12-14-05, 05:46 AM   #124
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@kirkengaard: please see http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...9&postcount=30; please also note that the compile warnings are picked up from Linux kernel header files.
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Old 12-14-05, 08:37 AM   #125
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(running 2.6.15-rc5-mm2, as per previous message, on last page)
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/351091

The future...

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Old 12-14-05, 08:39 AM   #126
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As I mentioned in a previous post, switching to 1.0-8174 finally fixed the garbled consoles and the DPMS bugs all together. See my post http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...458#post768458
It didn't for me...
setting vbemode to the one that was active before suspend (not 3 in my case) the console gets almost readable (it's still "blurry"), but as soon as I switch to X and back, the console is completely garbled again.
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Old 12-14-05, 03:53 PM   #127
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Maybe, maybe not. Even if nVidia and ATi were able and willing to open source their drivers, there are some fairly significant problems to consider. Such as the rampant cheating in online games that would ensue.

I do want open drivers just on principle, but I won't delude myself by thinking that there are no disadvantages.
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Old 12-14-05, 04:26 PM   #128
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I do want open drivers just on principle, but I won't delude myself by thinking that there are no disadvantages.
Disadvantages maybe yes, but many ore advantages. You have read what the kernel developers think about some companies...And we do not hear anymore the standard bot answers:

- Please fillout a bug report
- Comes in future release

no, we can help and fix that problem and make the best driver available!

Why are the older drivers for not more supported GPUs not open source? The good old Riva128 or TNT or Voodoo cards for example? What will lose nVidia?

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Old 12-15-05, 04:03 AM   #129
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Disadvantages maybe yes, but many ore advantages. You have read what the kernel developers think about some companies...
Well, that depends. I'm pretty sure Nvidia or ATI will never release their drivers (or complete specifications) as GPL.
If a kernel-patch like this gets in, the consequence wouldn't be "Open-Source drivers", it would be "NO 3D-capable drivers". Personally, I don't see that as a big advantage...
Trying to blackmail companies like this is a very bad idea, especially when it is lot easier for the company to only support one OS...
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Old 12-15-05, 04:08 AM   #130
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Trying to blackmail companies like this is a very bad idea, especially when it is lot easier for the company to only support one OS...
You shouldn't believe that Nvidia gives Linux driver just for fun or as good will. There are enough professionell corporate users who use expensive quadro cards and mainly for them the Linux drivers are (were initially) developed. Now as Linux gains more momentum the usual desktop market is also getting more attention. So Nvidia can't just cease driver development for Linux - they would lose customers and thus profit - and these customers become more and more...
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Old 12-15-05, 04:23 AM   #131
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You shouldn't believe that Nvidia gives Linux driver just for fun or as good will. There are enough professionell corporate users who use expensive quadro cards and mainly for them the Linux drivers are (were initially) developed. Now as Linux gains more momentum the usual desktop market is also getting more attention. So Nvidia can't just cease driver development for Linux - they would lose customers and thus profit - and these customers become more and more...
True, but with the upcoming removal of OpenGL from Windows Vista, there is a lot of pressure on commercial Software developers to move to Direct3D and therefore to Windows. It can't be a good idea to now weaken the position of Linux on that market.
And by the way, giving out the sources to their drivers WILL cost NVIDIA money. Believing they could just move their sources to sf.net and be done with it is just ridiculously naive.
Of course NVIDIA can drop Linux support whenever they want and it would hardly hurt them. Most of the users of professional 3D Software would move to Windows and not to a different hardware manufacturer... What's their alternative?
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Old 12-15-05, 05:21 AM   #132
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Hello,
I use the opensuse kernel-2.6.15-rc5 and I'm unable to compile the nvidia module, see errors in the attached file. I was able to compile the x86_64 module for the X86_64 kernel-2.6.15-rc5.

What can be done?

Thanks.

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