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Old 12-17-05, 02:31 PM   #145
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I 2nd this question!!

I waited and spent lots extra on my laptop to make sure I got the nVidia card simply because I felt they were supported better by their maker.

Was I wrong? Starting to look that way...

I've always bought and recommended nVidia to the tune of probably hundreds of highish-end cards (I work in IT). But I think this will be the last one I buy or suggest to anyone.
what?

and miss out on this ???? :
If a precompiled kernel interface is not found, you must install a linker prior to installing the NVIDIA driver.
If a distribution releases a new kernel after an NVIDIA driver is released, the current NVIDIA driver can be repackaged to include a precompiled kernel interface for that newer kernel (in addition to all the precompiled kernel interfaces that were included in the previous package of the driver).
the installer will check your system for the required kernel sources and compile the interface for you. You must have the source code for your kernel installed for compilation to work
The kernel interface layer of the NVIDIA kernel module must be compiled specifically for the configuration and version of your kernel.
You appear to be compiling the NVIDIA kernel module with a compiler different from the one that was used to compile the running kernel.
set the CC environment variable to the name of the compiler that was used to compile the kernel.
If the kernel is compiled with gcc 2.x, but gcc 3.x is used when the kernel interface is compiled (or vice versa), the size of rwlock_t will vary, and things like ioremap will fail.
exit the X server and kill all OpenGL applications
after installation, but prior to using the driver, you must complete the steps described in Chapter 3, Configuring X for the NVIDIA Driver.
The installer uses an ncurses-based user interface if it is able to locate the correct ncurses library. Otherwise, it will fall back to a simple commandline user interface. This option disables the use of the ncurses library.
To check what version of gcc is currently in your $PATH, you can examine the output of:
% gcc -v

gosh, i almost forgot how to get to runlevel 3. i actually remembered how to use vi. came back to me so unnaturally.

but the bottom line is you're right. purchasing the bleeding edge subjects you to experimental status. half expected this, doesn't make it right.
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Old 12-17-05, 02:37 PM   #146
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Dont think Im making threats they are of no use in a situation like this. Somehow I can't see nVidia fixing the Suspend issue because Im going to change manufacturers, although I'd be pretty flattered and happy if they do!

ATI drivers have a *much* worse track record than nVidia which is why I have always recommened and bought nVidia cards. But what is the point of buying a high end card when basic requirements such as Suspend aren't supported?
I may as well saved my money and bought an Integrated No-Name and had suspend.

It's nice to be able to play games with all the fancy extras turned on but at the end of the day, if the machine cant be used for work, its of no use to anyone.
This goes for Drivers and OSS.
How does suspend affect me working on the Laptop? Well that really depends on how you use the system.
Its sad when everyone says to me "But Windows can do that!" and I can't answer with anything, especially when they have been saying it for a while now.
But we're starting to get off topic here.

The primary question still remains, does Suspend to Ram work with these drivers?
i agree completely
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Old 12-18-05, 05:41 AM   #147
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Did not followed the complete thread, but if you got this error message, you should at least install gcc, kernel-source and glibc-devel.
why didn't suse 10.0 come with gcc ?
can you be more specific about installing gcc, kernel-source, and glibc-devel ?

is there a particular version i need to look for (as discussed earlier ) ?

i have my installation cds. will i find it on there ?

man gcc
help gcc
yield no results, and since gcc isn't installed can forget about gcc -?

i will look on novel website, but will also check back here.
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Old 12-18-05, 05:46 AM   #148
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Something currently less important: Is there a known issue between compiling Nvidia glue layer with gcc 4.1? If one tries one gets missing symbols on linking/modprobing. (I could reproduce it.)
I use the GCC 4.1.0 20051214 (Red Hat 4.1.0-0.9) from Fedora rawhide, no problems with the nVidia driver. For the Linux kernel I use this patch on 2.6.14 / 2.6.15-rc5:
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs....6-gcc41.patch

and all is quiet...

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Old 12-18-05, 06:57 AM   #149
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why didn't suse 10.0 come with gcc ?
can you be more specific about installing gcc, kernel-source, and glibc-devel ?
Not really. OSUSE comes with the GCC and glibc-devel. Look here:
http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub...t-source/suse/

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Old 12-18-05, 01:12 PM   #150
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As requested, here is a bug report on the kernel oops problems I have with 8174.

I also have a bug to report on the bug report script: one of the first things it does is capture details from /proc/driver/nvidia/... files: when the kernel module fails as it did for me, opening those files blocks the script. Only by removing such captures could the script execute and capture wider system output.
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File Type: log nvidia-bug-report.log (77.7 KB, 179 views)
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Old 12-18-05, 01:18 PM   #151
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Not really. OSUSE comes with the GCC and glibc-devel. Look here:
http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub...t-source/suse/

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i have downloaded the following:
gcc-c++-4.0.2_20050901-3.x86_64.rpm
gcc-4.0.2_20050901-3.x86_64.rpm
libgcc-4.0.2_20050901-3.x86_64.rpm
glibc-devel-2.3.5-40.x86_64.rpm
glibc-2.3.5-40.x86_64.rpm
kernel-source-2.6.13-15.x86_64.rpm

now i have to figure out what an rpm file is. why does it have to be this complicated ?
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Old 12-18-05, 01:53 PM   #152
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It has been a long time since I've used SuSE but can't you just use yast to install software.
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Old 12-18-05, 04:19 PM   #153
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rpm -Uvh *.rpm
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Old 12-19-05, 04:12 AM   #154
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why didn't suse 10.0 come with gcc ?
can you be more specific about installing gcc, kernel-source, and glibc-devel ?

is there a particular version i need to look for (as discussed earlier ) ?

i have my installation cds. will i find it on there ?

man gcc
help gcc
yield no results, and since gcc isn't installed can forget about gcc -?

i will look on novel website, but will also check back here.
SUSE 10.0 OSS (and any other version I know of) comes with gcc, kernel-source and so on. But they are not installed by default. Power up YaST and install these packages.
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Old 12-19-05, 04:28 AM   #155
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i have downloaded the following:
gcc-c++-4.0.2_20050901-3.x86_64.rpm
gcc-4.0.2_20050901-3.x86_64.rpm
libgcc-4.0.2_20050901-3.x86_64.rpm
glibc-devel-2.3.5-40.x86_64.rpm
glibc-2.3.5-40.x86_64.rpm
kernel-source-2.6.13-15.x86_64.rpm

now i have to figure out what an rpm file is. why does it have to be this complicated ?
Please, use the system tool from your distribution. If you don't know what to do, YaST will help you. It is a very powerfull tool, especially for Linux beginners. If you don't have the printed manuals, you can look here for more information about YaST:
http://elibrary.fultus.com/technical.../cover_sg.html
http://elibrary.fultus.com/technical....yast2.sw.html
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Old 02-06-06, 10:27 PM   #156
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YaST

YaST

YaST

YaST

yaSt
Yast

YaST


yes. it's elementary

Yast
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