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Old 01-05-06, 08:31 PM   #13
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I'm concerned...somehow a series of drivers worked, and now 8xxx does not, so badly broken that a Toshiba needs to be set as Dell in nvreg_mobile.

It's a simple resolution, i'm betting.

And now Lonni claims that without a laptop he can do nothing to resolve it????

Please, Lonni, just deepen the debug output on the driver, or at least refrain from writing us off so quickly.
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Old 01-05-06, 08:43 PM   #14
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I don't believe that I've written anyone off. There's no doubt that you're experiencing a problem, however until it can be reproduced internally at NVIDIA, I'm afraid that it cannot be debugged.

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Old 01-05-06, 11:03 PM   #15
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I don't believe that I've written anyone off. There's no doubt that you're experiencing a problem, however until it can be reproduced internally at NVIDIA, I'm afraid that it cannot be debugged.

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That is a rather strange position. Having developed (and debugged) operating system software for 15 years and worked on network design and testing for 6 years, I can tell you with some certainty that the opportunity to reproduce a (non-application level) problem is rare.

We have platforms that can reproduce the problem reliably; all Nvidia needs do is collect the data. The code where the clock is determined has obviously changed. Put some debug statements in to dump the registers and memory locations you need at the appropriate locations in a 7676 and 8178 build of the driver, and see what's going wrong. It may take two or three iterations to narrow the problem, if done carefully. The corrected code can be tested by those impacted as confirmation.

There's no need for developers to personally experience the error. Odds are, your Linux user base has more skilled developers than work for Nvidia. Not utilizing that resource, when it's available at no cost to the company, is... strange.

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Old 01-06-06, 06:15 AM   #16
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I concur.
We are willing to help, please let us.
It can certainly be done without releasing the code, and without compromising your work.
We simply need the debugging output.
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Old 01-12-06, 05:39 PM   #17
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Just wondering why we're not getting more folks offering to help.
Nvidia should not need to possess every laptop ever made...they have us to help.
We bought this equipment, support has been exemplary, and now we want 8xxx fixed.

Just hoping we can work it out.
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Old 01-13-06, 05:14 PM   #18
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I have the Canadian equivalent laptop (Toshiba Satellite 5100) and I offer my help too, as I have the same problems. I develop operating systems as a living, so I suppose I can give a worthy hand, given enough debugging output...

As a bonus problem, the latest compatible Windows drivers cannot even give me my full resolution!
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Old 01-17-06, 11:41 AM   #19
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Well, Lonni and company, can we have some deeper debug code?
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Old 02-01-06, 11:10 PM   #20
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