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Old 12-29-05, 04:12 PM   #13
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Well, have they done the die shrink on the AGP core version of the 6800GS?

If they have, it should overclock reasonably well. Right?

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Old 12-30-05, 10:45 PM   #14
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They did the same thing with the 6600 GT agp vs the 6600 GT pci-e. It's their way of nudging us towards pci-e I think. Lower price and slightly (maybe) better performance for pci-e.

Sucks that they are doing it that way.
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Old 12-30-05, 11:03 PM   #15
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They did the same thing with the 6600 GT agp vs the 6600 GT pci-e. It's their way of nudging us towards pci-e I think. Lower price and slightly (maybe) better performance for pci-e.

Sucks that they are doing it that way.
not quite.... they meant to with the 6600 but with the 6800 GS, they don't see it worth the money to use a bridge chip, so instead they use leftover NV40 cores..... as i've said before, it's not a GS, it's a slightly modified 6800
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Damn! Why underclocked! That just sucks.
The AGP version is using crap NV40 cores (a 16-pipe native core that likely can't run at 16-pipes), while the PCI-E version is NV42 (12-pipe native).

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Are the GTO's in AGP? Dont think so.
The GTO2 isnt, but the regular GTO is. It's $193 at Newegg. It would liekly edge out this AGP GS, but it's a tad slower than the PCI-E GS (beating it in some games/benches). Overall, the X800GTO is the best sub-$200 AGP card today.
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Old 12-31-05, 04:57 AM   #17
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So the 6800GS AGP is just a crippled 6800GT? Huge dissapointment although I'm not surprised. The old nv40-core simply cant reach the speeds of the nv42.

Seems Nvidia is releasing a crappy AGP-card just to annoy people and force them to go PCI-e. Reminds me of the stupid downclocked 6600gt AGP. Made no sense whatsoever since both PCI-e and AGP-versions used the exact same memory.

But this time the AGP-version gets a different slower core and theres nothing AGP-users can do about it. Unless they get lucky and unlock 4 additional healthy pixel pipes.

I was thinking of upgrading to 6800GS, but now ATI will probably get my money. They actually have AGP-cards worth spending money on.
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Evga just sent me an email yesterday saying the 6800GS AGP is shipping now... dammit, there goes the resale value of my 6800GT
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Evga just sent me an email yesterday saying the 6800GS AGP is shipping now... dammit, there goes the resale value of my 6800GT
Ya right ... the 6800GT is a rock solid card. A lot of people would still love to have one who dont have the cash for a full upgrade Not to mention, form the sound of things on this thread... the AGP GT might even still be better than an AGP GS.
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Ya right ... the 6800GT is a rock solid card. A lot of people would still love to have one who dont have the cash for a full upgrade Not to mention, form the sound of things on this thread... the AGP GT might even still be better than an AGP GS.
yeh i really think it will the 6800 GS AGP is going to flop
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yeh i really think it will the 6800 GS AGP is going to flop
You're wrong.
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yeh i really think it will the 6800 GS AGP is going to flop
Heh, no way. If its significantly faster than the 6600GT AGP, itl sell like crazy because right now there is a HUUUGE hole in the Nvidia graphics card market and it covers everything above "low end". Systems like mine are still in the top range as far as CPU\RAM speed and features, but if I had a mid\low end card (like a 6600GT) , I would have *ZERO* video upgrade options short of buying a second hand 6800 or going ATI (and who the hell wants to do that? ).

The 6800 series has been completely whiped from the AGP market... you MIGHT be able to find an ultra for like $450, or maybe a 6800 vanilla for around $200 but even that isnt much faster (in fact some times they are slower) than a 6600GT.

That makes my 6800GT OC a valuable comodity for AGP users. I see them still going on Ebay for $300 because they are WORTH IT to people who dont have PCI-Express.

The 6800GS is the answer to AGP users' problems because it will offer performance thats (hopefully) significantly higher than a 6600GT and it will probably cost under $250. If there was a 512Mb 7800GTX available somewhere for a decent price, you can bet your ass Id Ebay my 6800GT right away to get some decent money out of it. It probably wont pull more than like $225 on ebay after the GS is available... because people wont buy used stuff if they can get something similar brand new from a retailer.

Of course it is ebay... Im probably giving them way too much credit as far as business sense goes
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XFX 6800GS AGP at newegg is $229 which is'nt bad ,but if they are going to use the old NV40 chips for it and it is clock at 350/ 1100 and just has 12 pipes then you are better off with the 6800GT .
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