BenQ PE5120 and 854x480

Impi · 10-17-05, 03:52 PM

Hi all!

I want to use the native resolution (854x480) of my BenQ PE5120 beamer.
I generated this modeline

Code:

ModeLine "854x480" 45.86 854 896 1096 1176 480 482 494 520 #75Hz

which seems to work in Xorg's nv-driver, but then I don't have 3d-acceleration and somehow the beamer never registers a change in the resolution (it always reports it at 1024x768).
When I use the nvidia-driver (1.0.7676 and 1.0.6629) I get this message in my /var/log/Xorg.1.log:

Code:

(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "854x480":
(WW) NVIDIA(0):   horizontal resolution (854) not a multiple of 8
(WW) NVIDIA(0):   horizontal blanking width ((max(1176,1096) - min(854,896) =
(WW) NVIDIA(0):      322) not a multiple of 8

is it possible to disable this multiple of 8 check or does anyone know of another way of using this resolution?

Impi · 10-19-05, 01:43 PM

Really impossible to use WSVGA with nvidia-drivers?
Does anyone know if this is possible in Windows?

netllama · 10-19-05, 01:55 PM

How or where did you obtain that modeline?

Please start X with the following command:
startx -- -logverbose 5
and then generate and post a bug report for review.

Thanks,
Lonni

Impi · 10-22-05, 01:35 PM

The modeline was generated with the Colas XFree Modeline Generator.

netllama · 10-22-05, 03:53 PM

How or where did you determine that your projector has a native resolution of 854x480?

Neither the EDID in the X log of your bug report, nor the official user's manual mention that resolution as being valid.

The EDID lists:
720x400@88Hz
640x480@60Hz
640x480@72Hz
640x480@75Hz
800x600@60Hz
800x600@72Hz
800x600@75Hz
1024x768@60Hz
1021x768@65Hz
1024x768@70Hz
1024x768@75Hz

And the User's Manual lists:
SXGA, XGA, SVGA, VGA, Macintosh®, HDTV (1080i, 720p, 576p, 576i, 480p, 480i)

Thanks,
Lonni

Impi · 10-23-05, 06:41 AM

It says so in the information about the DMD chip (in the manual for the PE5120):
0.53" DMD 480P (854x480)
That is the native resolution of the chip, as I understand it.
Currently I'm running it at 1024x576, but shouldn't I get a sharper picture, when I used the native resolution?

netllama · 10-23-05, 10:19 AM

I see what you're referring to now, but it seems a bit odd that they list 480P outside of the resolutions section. Are you certain that 854x480 was working with the nv driver? Did you see that as the accepted resolution in the X log?

-Lonni

Impi · 10-23-05, 11:46 AM

Yes, according to X it is working (I have attached a bug-report, with the nv-driver running).
But the beamer always says that it is running at 1024x768, regardles of what resolution I choose in X.

With the nvidia-driver the beamer mostly recognises to what resolution I have switched. So, when I'm choosing 1024x576 the beamer says it is running at 1024x576, when I choose 800x600 the beamer says it is running at 800x600 and so on...

Anyway thanks for your help so far, but are you sure this has nothing to do with 854 not being a multiple of 8?
From what you wrote it sounds more like it is an issue of the beamer not giving out the correct EDID. Perhaps I should contact BenQ about this.

netllama · 10-23-05, 02:51 PM

The bug report you attached against the 'nv' driver also shows that 854x480 fails to work:
(II) NV(0): Not using mode "854x480/75Hz" (no mode of this name)
(--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1024x576 (pitch 1024)

I'd suggest talking to BenQ at this point, as either their documentation is erroneous, or possibly something is wrong with your projector. Perhaps they can provide you with a modeline for 480P.

Thanks,
Lonni

RPlakas · 10-24-05, 10:06 AM

Lonni,

Can you verify that we can use non-divisible-by-8 resolutions in modelines with the latest Nvidia drivers? I am using an FX5200, but I owuld pickup an 6600GT if it supported this.

I also have a projector with a native res of 854x480 (Infocus 4805)but I have a modeline setup for 848x480 because the driver won't accept 854x480

Thanks,

Rich

Quote:

Originally Posted by netllama

The bug report you attached against the 'nv' driver also shows that 854x480 fails to work:
(II) NV(0): Not using mode "854x480/75Hz" (no mode of this name)
(--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1024x576 (pitch 1024)

I'd suggest talking to BenQ at this point, as either their documentation is erroneous, or possibly something is wrong with your projector. Perhaps they can provide you with a modeline for 480P.

Thanks,
Lonni

Impi · 10-24-05, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netllama

The bug report you attached against the 'nv' driver also shows that 854x480 fails to work:
(II) NV(0): Not using mode "854x480/75Hz" (no mode of this name)
(--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1024x576 (pitch 1024)

That's just because I've set a mode "854x480/75Hz" but called it in the modeline "854x480". If you scroll a little bit further down (line 855) you can see that it is acceptet:
(**) NV(0): Mode "854x480": 45.9 MHz, 39.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz
(II) NV(0): Modeline "854x480" 45.86 854 896 1096 1176 480 482 494 520

Quote:

I'd suggest talking to BenQ at this point, as either their documentation is erroneous, or possibly something is wrong with your projector. Perhaps they can provide you with a modeline for 480P.

I will do that. But something tells me, that they won't support any Linux stuff...

netllama · 10-24-05, 02:15 PM

I've dug into this a bit more, and the strict divide by 8 requirement will be addressed in the next driver release (1.0-8xxx). The best workaround right now is to reduce the resolution to be divisible by 8, which means, please try using 848x480. You will need to create a modeline, such as this:
Modeline "my848x480" 40.96 848 880 968 1088 480 481 484 502

Thanks,
Lonni

10-17-05, 03:52 PM	#1
Impi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 13	BenQ PE5120 and 854x480 Hi all! I want to use the native resolution (854x480) of my BenQ PE5120 beamer. I generated this modeline Code: ModeLine "854x480" 45.86 854 896 1096 1176 480 482 494 520 #75Hz which seems to work in Xorg's nv-driver, but then I don't have 3d-acceleration and somehow the beamer never registers a change in the resolution (it always reports it at 1024x768). When I use the nvidia-driver (1.0.7676 and 1.0.6629) I get this message in my /var/log/Xorg.1.log: Code: (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "854x480": (WW) NVIDIA(0): horizontal resolution (854) not a multiple of 8 (WW) NVIDIA(0): horizontal blanking width ((max(1176,1096) - min(854,896) = (WW) NVIDIA(0): 322) not a multiple of 8 is it possible to disable this multiple of 8 check or does anyone know of another way of using this resolution?

10-19-05, 01:43 PM	#2
Impi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 13	Re: BenQ PE5120 and 854x480 Really impossible to use WSVGA with nvidia-drivers? Does anyone know if this is possible in Windows?

10-19-05, 01:55 PM	#3
netllama NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,763	Re: BenQ PE5120 and 854x480 How or where did you obtain that modeline? Please start X with the following command: startx -- -logverbose 5 and then generate and post a bug report for review. Thanks, Lonni

10-22-05, 03:53 PM	#5
netllama NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,763	Re: BenQ PE5120 and 854x480 How or where did you determine that your projector has a native resolution of 854x480? Neither the EDID in the X log of your bug report, nor the official user's manual mention that resolution as being valid. The EDID lists: 720x400@88Hz 640x480@60Hz 640x480@72Hz 640x480@75Hz 800x600@60Hz 800x600@72Hz 800x600@75Hz 1024x768@60Hz 1021x768@65Hz 1024x768@70Hz 1024x768@75Hz And the User's Manual lists: SXGA, XGA, SVGA, VGA, Macintosh®, HDTV (1080i, 720p, 576p, 576i, 480p, 480i) Thanks, Lonni

10-23-05, 06:41 AM	#6
Impi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 13	Re: BenQ PE5120 and 854x480 It says so in the information about the DMD chip (in the manual for the PE5120): 0.53" DMD 480P (854x480) That is the native resolution of the chip, as I understand it. Currently I'm running it at 1024x576, but shouldn't I get a sharper picture, when I used the native resolution?

10-23-05, 10:19 AM	#7
netllama NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,763	Re: BenQ PE5120 and 854x480 I see what you're referring to now, but it seems a bit odd that they list 480P outside of the resolutions section. Are you certain that 854x480 was working with the nv driver? Did you see that as the accepted resolution in the X log? -Lonni

10-23-05, 02:51 PM	#9
netllama NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,763	Re: BenQ PE5120 and 854x480 The bug report you attached against the 'nv' driver also shows that 854x480 fails to work: (II) NV(0): Not using mode "854x480/75Hz" (no mode of this name) (--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1024x576 (pitch 1024) I'd suggest talking to BenQ at this point, as either their documentation is erroneous, or possibly something is wrong with your projector. Perhaps they can provide you with a modeline for 480P. Thanks, Lonni

10-24-05, 02:15 PM	#12
netllama NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,763	Re: BenQ PE5120 and 854x480 I've dug into this a bit more, and the strict divide by 8 requirement will be addressed in the next driver release (1.0-8xxx). The best workaround right now is to reduce the resolution to be divisible by 8, which means, please try using 848x480. You will need to create a modeline, such as this: Modeline "my848x480" 40.96 848 880 968 1088 480 481 484 502 Thanks, Lonni