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Old 07-12-06, 07:02 PM   #1273
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Default Re: NVNews Widescreen LCD Club (formally DELL thread)

If HDCP encryption is not enabled on a 1080p video stream (signal) the 2407 will have not problem displaying an image (the native resolution of the 2407 is 1920X1200). The original content controls everything. If the content is using HDCP encryption then the video card needs it and the monitor needs it so that you can see the final image.
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Old 07-12-06, 07:28 PM   #1274
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Default Re: NVNews Widescreen LCD Club (formally DELL thread)

So the limitation with the electronics used in the latest Genesis controller makes the Dell 2407 act like a non-HDCP monitor, when feeded with 1080p content using HDCP encryption.

The good news might be, if this article is correct, that Dell 2407 owners should be able to display 1080p in full resolution (as all others non-HDCP monitor owners will), because there will be no HDCP for the next 3-4 years.
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Hollywood studios, along with major consumer electronics makers, such as Microsoft Corp. and Sony Corp., have agreed not to implement image quality downgrades on hardware that does not support HDCP copy-protection and HDMI output.

It was agreed that till, at least, 2010, if not even till 2012, signals from Blu-ray or HD DVD players should be transferred to televisions or displays in full resolution, even if certain components do not support HDCP or HDMI.

This may allow next-generation game consoles, such as PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 as well as personal computers to playback Blu-ray and HD DVD movies in up to 1920x1080 resolution even on monitors that do not support high-bandwidth digital copyright protection (HDCP) technology or HDMI output.

Furthermore, if the report is correct and the ICT will not be imposed for years, computer users will be able to watch high-definition movies on large monitors in full-quality without any need to get a graphics card or a display that supports HDCP.
Unless, with the Dell 2407, the limitation with the electronics used in the latest Genesis controller turns out to be more... problematic.
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Old 07-12-06, 08:41 PM   #1275
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Default Re: NVNews Widescreen LCD Club (formally DELL thread)

I can not confirm if the 2407 can output a pure 1920X1080 progressive scan image from dedicated HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player but what I CAN confirm is if you select a resolution of 1920X1080 on your PC you will definitely get an image (PC resolutions are not interlaced). Since the aspect ratio of the 2407 is 16:10 you will get black bars on the top and bottom of the monitor at 1920X1080 (aspect ratio for 1080p is 16:9).
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Old 07-12-06, 11:33 PM   #1276
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I'm sure the 3007 is HDCP compilant:
Sorry my bad but if there is HDCP on 3007 model, DELL for sure not promote it much.

I did search "Product Details" page for 3007 and there is nothing there about HDCP
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...1&sku=222-0863

"Product Details" for 2407 says "HDCP compliant"
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...1&sku=320-4335

Anyway there is not any post at Dell Forum about 3007 problem with HDCP or 1080p display (which might be good).
I might ask the Dell Moderator the question but not easy to get a right answer there.
Also since Dell 3007WFP requires a dual-link DVI graphic card I speculate that the external HD-DVD or Blue-ray players
would not be able to display the 1080p on that monitor.
Don't like to speculate about the above internal players when available.
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Old 07-13-06, 06:23 AM   #1277
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Default Re: NVNews Widescreen LCD Club (formally DELL thread)

Guys can we keep this widescreen members thread Technical discussions elsewhere? Thank you
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Old 07-13-06, 07:08 AM   #1278
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Well guys after fighting the urge for months I decided to pick up a 42" Westinghouse LCD monitor. I figured that $1799 (no shipping/no tax) was a decent deal so I pulled the trigger! I look forward to any advice the current Westinghouse owners have on tweaking this bad boy up! (I believe that's Riptide and OWA).
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Old 07-13-06, 08:51 AM   #1279
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Wow that is an excellent price. Do you already have it or is it on order? IMO you should read through this thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=689997

It's a big thread but chalk full of info. I'd start at the end and maybe work back. One thing I can advise is to take a laptop and test the unit before you take it home. Try a light gray test background and make sure you don't one with horrible vertical banding. That is the one thing other than lockups that the 42W2 has for known issues.
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It's on order... I should get it sometime next week. I ordered from Crutchfield so I have 30 days to give it the once over and see if lock up or severe banding affect the display. Crutchfield's exchange and refund policies rival Dell. I made sure I didnt order from some "fish and chips" web site.
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Old 07-13-06, 09:09 AM   #1281
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Well I got a vga cable for my xbox 360 to go into my Dell W3201C. DVDs look ten times better now because they are upscaled to native resolution (1360x768). My big problem is that the Dell doesn't have any Image settings for the VGA port; I only have brightness and contrast and that's it. No saturation, hue, sharpness settings at all. I got really dissapointed. I'm wondering if all TVs lack image settings in VGA mode. It still looks better than through component but I wish I could tweak the colors and the sharpness a bit.
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Maybe there is a service menu on the Dell that lets you make those kind of adjustment. Check the Dell or AVS forums to see if you find anything.
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My TV doesn't have those settings for the VGA in either. I have to set them on the computer that's connected to it. Never checked the service menu.

Still OT here though...
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Default Re: NVNews Widescreen LCD Club (formally DELL thread)

Well the problem is that not a lot of people have the Dells, mainly due to the fact that their last gen models weren't that great and you can't buy them or view them in a walk-in store.... I had my sharpness way up through component, I kinda like it sharp, so it's just kind of hard to get used to a much softer image.
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