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Old 01-24-06, 01:10 AM   #13
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Default Re: 6800GS vs. 9800 PRO: How big an upgrade?

6800 GS is almost the same as a 6800GT...
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Old 01-24-06, 02:13 AM   #14
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I had a GF3 and just installed a 6800ultra. I can say
it's a HUGE upgrade.

Enjoy that GS. I'm guessing you can turn on all the pipes
with RT so it should be a kickass card.
I'm playing at 1024 or 1280 with 2xAA and 4xAF. It's sweet.
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Old 01-24-06, 08:55 AM   #15
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hehe, geforce 3? didn't that stop playing games 3 years ago?
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Doesn't the geforce3 support DX8 features? In that sense it is better feature wise than a geforce4MX
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geforce4MX was just a marketing scam. GF3 was directX8, the first DX8, but really, by the time dx8 games started coming out, it wasn't fast enough. Games like morrowind and Halo just ran a bit to slow.
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Default Re: 6800GS vs. 9800 PRO: How big an upgrade?

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Remember, the 6800GS is very comparable to the 6800GT in overall speed,
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6800 GS is almost the same as a 6800GT...
The AGP 6800GS is not as fast as a 6800GT. The PCI-E version is equal to a 6800GT. They're two very different cards (the AGP and PCI-E GSs).
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The AGP 6800GS is not as fast as a 6800GT. The PCI-E version is equal to a 6800GT. They're two very different cards (the AGP and PCI-E GSs).
CAn you explain a little bit more ?
I know the 6800 GS in AGP is not the same as the PCI-E version, but can you tell in numbers whats`s the difference ?

I mean, in % how slower the AGP version is, compared to the 6800 GT AGP and 6800GS PCIE.

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Old 01-25-06, 01:42 PM   #20
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The 6800GS AGP has lower clocks I believe...
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Old 01-25-06, 02:26 PM   #21
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Yes default clocks for 6800gs agp is 350/1000 vs 425/1000 for PCIe.

IIRC 6800gs agp scores around 4500p in 3dmark05 while the pcie version scores around 5000. So the 6800gs agp is roughly 10% slower than the 6800gs pci-e.
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CAn you explain a little bit more ?
I know the 6800 GS in AGP is not the same as the PCI-E version, but can you tell in numbers whats`s the difference ?
As stated, the default clocks are 350/1000 (AGP) and 425/1000 (PCI-E).

OC versions seem to top out at 400/1100 (AGP) and 490/1100 (PCI-E).

The difference is more than 10%. The stock clock difference is 17.4% (using 425 as a base, it's more the other way). With equal memory and pipelines, that means the speed difference should be 15%+. It's actually more than that though, closer to 25%.

Another difference is the core. The PCI-E is NV42 (which is 12-pipe native). Its supposed to be a more efficient design. The AGP version is NV40, a 16-pipe native design, with one quad disabled.

The AGP version comes out to being 25% slower than a 6800GT. Going by core/memory/pipelines, the 6800GT should be faster than the PCI-E 6800GS, but it's not. They are virtually tied.
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