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Old 01-26-06, 06:14 AM   #1
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Default Anyone playing EVE-Online?

I'm finding myself having less and less time for playing WoW these days and as end game consists of raiding/PvP and I have 1-2 hours to play it looks like there is nothing more left for me to do in WoW. So I'm after a new MMO :P

EVE has always been a jewel but I never had balls to try it out, but I think the time has come :P

My biggest problem is time? Will I be able to play game 1-2 hours a day and still get things done? Even at higher levels? Ofc I will try to find some nice corp to play with but I'm so tired of waiting in queues for BG and trying to clear instance with ****ty pug. I hope there are not such things in EVE.

So how much time does eve require also how is soloability? Do I need group to get something done like in EQ2? If I screw up with character making/customization/skills can I get it right later (like buy skills back or something) or am I stuck with gimped guy?

I've read a few reviews and folks opinions and most of the negative stuff spells mining. I'm alright with mining/grinding in reasonable amounts but is there really that much mining so people quit because of it?

I think its all for now but more questions are bound to pop so stay tuned :P
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Old 01-27-06, 09:58 AM   #2
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I started playing EVE in June of '03 at the bequest of a friend - I didn't have much time to play as much as I would have liked, but it didn't stop me from logging on and doing a few missions here and there. Within a month I was doing semi-regular mining ops and taking down 50k rats. I've stopped playing once but as characters are almost never deleted by CCP, I have been able to return and EVE is my current favorite game.

By now you are probably familiar with the skill system in EVE. As such, there is no such thing as powerleveling - EVE is a slow, progressive game; your main character becomes more of an investment in time but you DO see the benefit and improvement in what you can do, provided you have the ingame funds. You can accomplish quite a bit within an hour to two hours: scout belts for rats, be an ebil player pirate, run agent missions, mine, etc. It's not out of the question to net a couple million isk after two hours of mining/hauling. You can't "screw up" your character - there is literally no limit in how many skill points you can have.

That said, there are plenty of noob corporations, notably EVE University Corporation, that will help you learn the ropes as well as help you get a better idea of what you want from your EVE experience. There are semi-centralized corporations/alliances like the Freelancer's Alliance which promote "freedom and a solo experience". You can find most answers on the EVE Online forums and generally people are of the helpful sort, provided you keep questions in the proper subforum. You will also be placed in a noob corporation when you start the game - players in those channels will also help you.

Take note though if you seek a "carebear" gaming experience. EVE contains a large percentage of PvP players, and PvP is quite simply unavoidable unless you stay in high-security systems.

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Old 01-27-06, 10:25 AM   #3
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I played the 14-day trial, but I don't have the time, money, or patience for MMORPGs.
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Old 01-27-06, 03:18 PM   #4
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guild wars is a free MMO, and i only have about an hour or 2 to play it and it works like a champ
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Old 01-27-06, 04:30 PM   #5
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well EVE is slooooooooooooooooooow x 100 x 1020124e194510955013
I actually watched movies while playing the game in windowed mode!
u click one thing then youll have to wait and wait to get anywhere or to do anything...

try out the 14 day trailer and I think like most u will be bored after some playtime. Especially if you come from WoW which is thousends times faster and more frantic
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Old 02-07-06, 11:17 AM   #6
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I'm thinking of trying it out.. although the speed of the game, from what I read concerns me.. Maybe I'll just end up playing and code at the same time..
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Old 02-15-06, 01:01 PM   #7
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I'm sorta enjoying this game.. I'm on like day 7 of my 15 day trial.. my char is centered around industry and research.. and I just put out my sell order for Depleted Uranium S ammo, lowest price in the region, 7.5 ISK. I'm hoping they will be bought quickly..

If they do, then I'll have a warm fuzzy feeling, and most likely buy into this game..

My plan is to build up some industry for a flow of isk.. Then I'm going to beef up my combat/jamming skills a bit, and venture out to the less secure sectors to see whats out there, and try to setup more industry's.. Once I get a hang of venturing around the less secure sectors and such, then I'll start looking into getting out of the newb corp.
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Old 02-18-06, 10:42 PM   #8
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I played EVE-Online, thought it was decently fun. The tutorial is like 4 hours long though, LOTS of information in - what doesn't sound like, but is - extremely short amount of time. The combat is rather un-eventful. You just deck your ship out in stuff and click the attack button and watch your dudes go at it, but it can be pretty cool when you start getting huge ships like battle cruisers and you get to tear shiat up.

What bothered me the most though is some of the textures in the game are downright HORRIBLE. Like eye-bleeding horrible. Like the Gallente starting space station (which is huge) has a fricken 12x12 pixel texture applied to it. Other than the occasional horrible texture it's pretty well done visually.

Space travel is cool at first, nice effects, nice sounds, but gets a little monotonous after a while, especially when ammo you're looking for is only decently priced in a system 7 jumps away. Then you get to watch your ship warp to gates and get thrown around in space for 10 minutes. It's even more of a bitch if you want to warp through 0.5-1.0 security zones.

That stuff aside, you can have a good time playing this game, it's probably the most unique MMO change I've experienced in a while, LOTS of people to meet and interact with. There's only one world with roughly 18000-25000 people on it a given time. It truely does feel like a MASSIVELY Multiplayer Online Game. Not only is it an MMO, it's a MASSIVE time sink too. Everything in this game takes an inordinate amount of time, but is strangely rewarding. Even smaller missions have nice payoffs. You can sit down and have a good time and get things accomplished in 2 hours, it's just that even trival tasks require some decent amount of effort, and that to advance to later stages of the game will take a lot of time put it, not necessarily all at once though.
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Old 02-20-06, 03:16 PM   #9
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Well, I joined up.. yea, this game is vastly different than most of the other games I played.. Its a nice change.
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Old 03-13-06, 10:53 AM   #10
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Well here's an update.. After lots of research, some pratice and skill training, I ventured off to lower securty areas (0.4, 0.3, 0.2) Got my first PvP kill. then started getting more daring, and thus got myself blown up a whole bunch of times afterwards lol .. was pretty discouraging, but at least most of the people were good sports about it... Sooo, I went back to "rat" killing for a bit to pratice with a tweaked setup/approach, and then got in a few more PvP kills that boosted my spirits.. Battles can get much more involved and strategic, depending on your ship build and tactics... and thats just a small # of people.. I can't imagine those huge battles with literally hundreds of people on each side..

I kinda felt bad for one, cause I'm not sure he knew what was happening.. but hey, thats how my first death was like too (at least he sorta had a chance, my first death was by someone that I had literally no chance at all... I blink and suddenly my shields are gone and half my armor is ripped apart, from some guy that I can barely even register on the radar) I'm still a clueless small fish.. but I'm starting to see how I can climb up and start nawing on the slightly bigger fish..

Over the weekend, I was actually able to make a decent amount of money too, now that I'm "figuring out" how to play in the market and sell stuff from kills.

I'm about to hit the 1 million skill point milestone too... I think in a week or two, I'll have enough money to pilot a cruiser to take on some bigger enemies.. I think I'll have to join a proper corp soon, so I can start venturing in 0.0 sec space with groups..
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Old 03-14-06, 12:23 PM   #11
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ynnek, msg me in game when you can. I'm part of a fantastic corp, and with your 1M sp you'll get in without problem. We have UK, US, and Canada members. We are primarily an Industrial Corp. We have access to low security space and protection. My experience so far is that being part of a solid Corp. has priceless benefits. I have plenty of money in game, but I never need to buy anything. The Corp. provides all I need.


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I'm finding myself having less and less time for playing WoW these days and as end game consists of raiding/PvP and I have 1-2 hours to play it looks like there is nothing more left for me to do in WoW. So I'm after a new MMO :P

EVE has always been a jewel but I never had balls to try it out, but I think the time has come :P
OK, I've been playing EVE since June '03. I still play daily, though not as much as I used to. So those are my credentials...

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My biggest problem is time? Will I be able to play game 1-2 hours a day and still get things done? Even at higher levels?
First off, in EVE there's really no such thing as a "level". You build up points in different skills each of which allows you to do different things (there's hundreds of skills to choose from), each skill has a level from 1 to 5, but there's no overall level to a character.

The real bonus to EVE is that when you set a skill training it builds up skill points no matter what you're doing, even if you're not logged in. You don't get "XP" for doing stuff, XP just builds up over time. This is what makes it a great game to play if you don't get much time (eg. if you're an adult with a family!)... if you manage your skill training cleverly you won't fall behind those who are playing 24/7 (skill-wise).

Where you may fall behind if you don't play much is in financial terms, and also I guess in your personal (non-character) skill in PVP should you choose to go that route.

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If I screw up with character making/customization/skills can I get it right later (like buy skills back or something) or am I stuck with gimped guy?
Overall the character creation has almost no impact on the long-term abilities of your char. There are no create-time-only skills, you can buy them all, and even your choice of attributes can be rebalanced to some degree by buying skills.

There are a few choices you can make that'll increase the speed at which you progress at the beginning, but after a few months it'll likely all have evened out.

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I've read a few reviews and folks opinions and most of the negative stuff spells mining. I'm alright with mining/grinding in reasonable amounts but is there really that much mining so people quit because of it?
Mining is the easy route to making money, it's the low-risk route, but it's not the only route.

There are missions (EVE equivalent of quests), complexes (EVE equivalent of instances), or you can go NPC hunting in almost any solar system. All of these get you money without having to go mining.

It's quite possible to solo in the game, though really, honestly it's you'll not get the best experience if you do. The underlying concept behind the game is that everything is player-driven, ie. the economy, the politics, etc. That's the reason there's only one server, basically because there's only one Universe and we all have to live together.

Get yourself in a good corp that's going somewhere ASAP and you'll have a blast. Experienced players will help you develop quicker (give advice on training skills in the right order, for example). Good corps will have access to the outer regions of the Galaxy which is where all the Good Stuff(TM) is, the best ore to mine and the best NPCs to shoot. It's also where most of the PVP takes place.

Most decent corps will take on n00bs and train them up, they may give you ships, etc. at good prices to help you along. They may expect a return on investment (eg. corp mining once in a while), but if they ask more than you're prepared to give then just leave and go join another corp (there's lots to choose from!).

Another thing you shouldn't be too worried about is being two-years behind chars like mine(*). CCP have put in a lot of diversity and specialisation over the past year or so, there's lots of niches for a n00b to slip in to. OK you won't be flying Titans any time soon, but then neither will I! Corps need people to fulfill specific roles, be it mining, production, research, trade, logistics, management ... and that's just the non-combat stuff. There are many classes of ships to fly each with their own part to play in fleet battles. It's not possible to do everything, even for the 2-3 year old characters.

(*) There's mucho whinging on the forums about this, but it mostly comes from people who expect to be l33t within a fortnight of grinding 24/7. EVE really isn't that kind of game, it takes a while to get where you're going, but when it gets going it can hold you for a long time.

I played WoW for a month or two, compared to EVE it's very shallow. WoW = combat grind, and nothing else. EVE has an economy, a real one not just the silly AH in Ironforge. EVE has galaxy-wide politics, alliances of player-owned mega-corps all fighting each other. EVE has stuff you can do which makes you close to unique in the player base.
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