AM2 Preview: Performance Lackluster?

ViN86 · 03-15-06, 04:43 PM

Tom's Hardware did a review. im not too impressed with the numbers atm. however, this is only with DDR2-667. they say production chips will support DDR2-800, which should offer more bandwidth over DDR-400, as opposed to DDR2-667, which is approximately equivalent (due to increased latencies).

check it out, let us know what you think

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/..._am2_platform/

Sazar · 03-15-06, 04:47 PM

Read anand's blog as well. Same thing is reported by him but he is optimistic some things will be fixed.

Dazz · 03-15-06, 05:04 PM

It's said that the AM2 will be around 3~5% faster then the same sk939 chips not much really.

superklye · 03-15-06, 05:27 PM

I've been saying this since day 1. I poo-poo AM2.

**Mr_LoL** · 03-15-06, 05:46 PM

If it offers no tangible benefits why are AMD bringing this new socket to the table?

superklye · 03-15-06, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zer0

...because maybe they where caught off guard by conroe.

If that was actually the case (which it isn't), this would be the most pathetic comeback of all time.

The only thing that's changed about these chips is the memory controller. It's not a new architecture or anything. Hell, I don't even think they're on a new process yet. Eventually they'll be 65nm, but they're still 90nm for the first generation or two.

I could be wrong though and I'm just not-bored enough to not Google it and see.

Sazar · 03-15-06, 06:17 PM

Yah, ddr-2 never really excited me. I would prefer for AMD to simply concentrate on a new beastie (which they are) and not worry about dabbling in little things like this.

However, from their perspective, it will define how their controller works and increased bandwidth is never a bad thing

Intel though have some awesome products on the horizon that are in sampling right now

keith33 · 03-15-06, 06:20 PM

Yeah, as soon as I read this I was thinking "whatever". It's almost a product refresh, nothing even evolutionary, DDR2 is still pretty unnecessary. I'm thinking conroe has a place in my house by the time I'm ready to switch processors. Intel has been continously innovating being the new underdog, AMD sat on their lead, and its about to be taken from under them.

jAkUp · 03-15-06, 08:21 PM

Conroe FTW, AMD slept, AMD lost

Riptide · 03-15-06, 08:56 PM

Some of us saw this coming.

SH0DAN · 03-15-06, 08:59 PM

AMD has not slept,and has certainly not lost,its just a little bit early to be making dire predictions such as that jAkUp,dont you think?

keith33 · 03-15-06, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SH0DAN

AMD has not slept,and has certainly not lost,its just a little bit early to be making dire predictions such as that jAkUp,dont you think?

AMD made it pretty clear there weren't going to be any significant architecture changes, Intel started from scratch. Unless AMD pulls a rabbit out of their hat I don't think its presumptuous to say Intel may have the performance crown this time around.

03-15-06, 04:43 PM	#1
ViN86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,486	AM2 Preview: Performance Lackluster? Tom's Hardware did a review. im not too impressed with the numbers atm. however, this is only with DDR2-667. they say production chips will support DDR2-800, which should offer more bandwidth over DDR-400, as opposed to DDR2-667, which is approximately equivalent (due to increased latencies). check it out, let us know what you think http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/..._am2_platform/

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