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Old 09-10-06, 03:22 AM   #37
chris_startx
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

Hi Lonni

I have a laptop (Gateway MX3410) which has nVidia MCP51 High Definition Audio (nForce chipset that is).
I'm trying to make the sound work with nvsound.ko in Knoppix 4.0.2 (kernel 2.6.12).
The fact is, both sound and video drivers compile with no problem, they even load with no problem. Network driver works perfectly, but the sound doesn't. I don't get any sound of my speakers. If I run kanotix or knoppix 5.0.1, (they have more recent drivers) they pretend to see my sound controller with the snd_hda_intel driver, the mixer shows up in the taskbar, I can pull the sliders up and down, but when it comes to actually play a sound all I get is big silence.

here is the listing from lspci on my machine:

Code:
0000:00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 02f3 (rev a2)
0000:00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 02fa (rev a2)
0000:00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 02fe (rev a2)
0000:00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 02f8 (rev a2)
0000:00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 02f9 (rev a2)
0000:00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 02ff (rev a2)
0000:00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 027f (rev a2)
0000:00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 027e (rev a2)
0000:00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 02fd (rev a1)
0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0247 (rev a2)
0000:00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0270 (rev a2)
0000:00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0260 (rev a3)
0000:00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0264 (rev a3)
0000:00:0a.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0271 (rev a3)
0000:00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026d (rev a3)
0000:00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026e (rev a3)
0000:00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0265 (rev f1)
0000:00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026f (rev a2)
0000:00:10.1 0403: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026c (rev a2)
0000:00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0269 (rev a3)
0000:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
0000:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
0000:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
0000:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
0000:06:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8185 (rev 20)
The sound controller would be:
<0403: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026c (rev a2)>


and here is the listing from lsmod:

Code:
Module                  Size  Used by
md5                     7680  1
ipv6                  238016  8
smbfs                  59640  2
snd_pcm_oss            47264  0
snd_pcm                77316  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer              23556  1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc         11268  1 snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss          18304  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd                    46820  4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
sworks_agp             10912  0
nvidia_agp              9756  0
efficeon_agp           10144  0
amd64_agp              13640  0
ali_agp                 9216  0
agpgart                31440  5 sworks_agp,nvidia_agp,efficeon_agp,amd64_agp,ali_agp
lp                     13704  0
autofs4                19076  1
af_packet              24328  0
ieee80211_crypt_wep_r8180     8064  0
evdev                  11008  1
joydev                 11712  0
r8180                  59020  0
ieee80211_r8180        33668  1 r8180
ieee80211_crypt_r8180     8324  2 ieee80211_crypt_wep_r8180,ieee80211_r8180
nvsound              1542584  0
soundcore              11104  2 snd,nvsound
nvnet                  70692  0
parport_pc             38724  0
parport                33480  2 lp,parport_pc
8250                   42844  0
serial_core            21120  1 8250
ohci1394               33460  0
ieee1394              297432  1 ohci1394
usbhid                 42464  0
ohci_hcd               21764  0
uhci_hcd               31632  0
usbcore               102492  4 usbhid,ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd
pcmcia                 23696  0
yenta_socket           22152  0
rsrc_nonstatic         14080  1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core            43268  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
video                  18308  0
thermal                14984  0
processor              24520  1 thermal
fan                     7300  0
container               7296  0
button                  9104  0
battery                12420  0
ac                      7556  0
rtc                    13900  0
ext3                  123912  0
jbd                    65572  1 ext3
reiserfs              231024  1
It's not clear to me whether I have to do something special to enable oss on my computer, but I've tried enabling OSS or Threaded OSS in Control Center and it tells me:
"Error while initializing the sound driver:
device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device)
The sound server will continue, using the null output device."

When I run kmixer it says it cannot find mixer.
If I run nvmixer, first it gives me the error "Nvsound: Unable to open the Mixer" about 30 times in konsole, then it opens the nvmixer GUI, and if I try to move some slider it gives me an error "Volume Set Failed".

Do you have any idea what else should I try? Is there something special I have to do to tell Linux it should OSS instead of ALSA or what?

Any answer here would be greatly appreciated, as well as your time spent for this.
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Old 09-10-06, 11:12 AM   #38
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

nvsound is no longer supported. Please see:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=75597
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Old 09-10-06, 03:44 PM   #39
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

Lonni, no offense but you did not read my post at all. I'm having problems with nvsound.ko and kernel 2.6.12, NOT 2.6.16 OR NEWER. And my chipset is MCP51, NOT MCP55 OR NEWER! The thread you mentioned only reffers to kernels 2.6.16. or newer AND TO MCP55 chipsets OR LATER!! , so it does not help me at all. As far as that thread says, nvsound.ko is supported in kernel 2.6.12, as well as nvnet.ko, which actually works perfectly for me. So what I want is to make nvsound.ko work with kernel 2.6.12. Considering the lspci and lsmod listings in my post, is there anything you can think of that can be done for this?

Thank you
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Old 09-10-06, 03:49 PM   #40
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

To clarify, nvsound is no longer supported under any kernel version (which is no longer available for download on NVIDIA's website). I've updated the sticky post to more accurately reflect this.

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Old 09-12-06, 08:40 PM   #41
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

OK, so I understand nVidia no longer supports MCP51? Everything below MCP55 is history and nobody cares anymore about them? Is there any way you can think of I can get a working audio driver for MCP51 or I can call myself stupid because I purchased a piece of nVidia junk??
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Old 09-12-06, 09:01 PM   #42
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

I'm not sure why you think NVIDIA no longer supports MCP51 (or any other hardware). Audio support is available via ALSA (and always was).

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Old 09-14-06, 09:22 PM   #43
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

OK, then I have a simple question:

For my sound chip - vendor id 0x10de, device id 0x026c, subvendor id 0x107b, subdevice id 0x0317 - what ALSA driver do you recommend?
The name of it seems to be "nVidia MCP51 High Definition Audio".

Neither i810_audio nor snd_hda_intel DO NOT WORK!

According to the link you posted above (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=75597) which sends me to another one (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=73925), it's not clear to me if both i810_audio and snd_hda_intel are supposed to work, or only i810_audio.
Neither one of them do not work anyway (ALSA drivers I mean!!), so I want to know what is the official recommendation of nVidia on this problem
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Old 10-01-06, 06:51 AM   #44
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_startx
OK, then I have a simple question:

For my sound chip - vendor id 0x10de, device id 0x026c, subvendor id 0x107b, subdevice id 0x0317 - what ALSA driver do you recommend?
The name of it seems to be "nVidia MCP51 High Definition Audio".

Neither i810_audio nor snd_hda_intel DO NOT WORK!
Having the same Problem. Tried the NFOCRE driver from ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Li...-9625-pkg2.run
patched nvmain.c and got: (dmesg)
nvsound: Unknown symbol remap_page_range
somethings seems wrong with nvidia and amd62 architectures. Having also problems with nvidia driver under 2.8.18 (x86_64).
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...857#post996857
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Old 10-01-06, 11:28 AM   #45
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

1.0-9625 is not an NFORCE driver, its the graphics driver.

-Lonni
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Old 10-01-06, 01:45 PM   #46
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My fault. I used NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0310-pkg1.run
from the NVIDIA site. somewhere in their subdirs...
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Old 02-23-07, 12:20 PM   #47
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Default Re: FC5 fail to load "nvsound.ko"

I have to believe that a solution to this issue (I have a Gateway MC3414 with exactly the same specs, results, and problems as Chris) has been found by now?

If not then I am sad that I bought the hype about NVIDIA unified drivers. The really sad thing is that this new notebook was supposed to be an audio workstation for my non-profit music program with at-risk youth. But without sound it is nothing but a fancy paperweight with some NVIDIA logos on it. I would really hate to have to launch a negative campaign to educate all my students and associates to stay away from NVIDIA products.

But I am also hoping that someone knows the solution to this problem. I have spent 2 weeks about 2-4 hours a day trying various distros, and various versions of alsa and trying any hint of how to fix it I could find to absolutely no avail and have reached the same conclusion as every other MX34xx linux users I have found all over the net. It's quite sad.


Description of the program:
http://www.boughmusic.org/Default.aspx?tabid=120
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Old 02-23-07, 12:25 PM   #48
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rolandbough,
I'm puzzled by your post as all of the audio support for NVIDIA chipsets is available via ALSA (as has been the case for quite some time), as I stated over 5 months ago.

See:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=75597

thanks,
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