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Old 05-09-06, 10:48 AM   #1
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Default New card (FX5500) - New bloody lock-ups

After all the hassle of having to use the latest driver for 2.6.16.x which then rendered my GeForce4 as 'twice a day' crash prone (and contributed to my monitors downfall) on an otherwise rock solid system (2 posts in here about it, never did resolve the issue), I decided to get a new card -> FX5500.

Now after starting KDE, I get a crash within 3 minutes - GUI locked (mouse OK), keyboard dead. I can still SSH in and shut down down cleanly.

One thing to note is my Mobo is 1/2/4xAGP only, and I was assured at the shop that the FX5500 runs OK in this slot (I couldn't get a card for 4xAGP only, they are like rocking horse ****).

Code:
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0002 0400 001f0100 00110ba0 00040003 00000000
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L1 -> L0
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0002 07c0 ffdf0201 000083fc 00000000 00000000
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L1 -> L0
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0002 07c0 ffdf0201 00000000 00000000 00000000
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L0 -> L0
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0002 0000 0000ddd7 00000000 0000ddd7 00000000
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L1 -> L0
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0000 0018 ffdf0000 00000000 ffdf0000 00000000
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L0 -> L0
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0002 1dd4 ffdf0000 000403fc ffdfddd7 beef0000
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L1 -> L0
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0002 0000 0000ddd7 00000000 0000ddd7 00000000
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L1 -> L0
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0002 10c8 ffdf0201 00011004 ffdfb0c8 00000000
May  9 15:49:33 linuxamd kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 28,  L1 -> L0
I appear to be currently running stable with AGP disabled.

This is now starting to get on my nerves. All I want is to use my computer - what else can I do?

Nick
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Old 05-09-06, 12:16 PM   #2
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Default Re: New card (FX5500) - New bloody lock-ups

Finally, finally I am getting somewhere!!!

It is my mobo - I have always used 4xAGP. If I turn that off (default is 2xAGP) system is OK!!!

Code:
nick@linuxamd:nick$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status:          Enabled
Driver:          NVIDIA
AGP Rate:        2x
Fast Writes:     Disabled
SBA:             Disabled
I did try turning on 4xAGP and adjusting driving value manually (default value is DA -- DB and D9 make it worse).

So two questions if anybody can help.

1) Why did the latest driver start to make this (lockups) happen after all this time?

2) Would a BIOS flash fix it - here is my mobo BIOS 'history' flash path - mine is old version -> UL, and I don't see anything in there that would go me any good to fix the 4xAGP issue?
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...ies=1&model=92

Thanks,

Nick
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Old 05-09-06, 01:22 PM   #3
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Default Re: New card (FX5500) - New bloody lock-ups

I had this exact same problem some years ago as well. Contacted the vendor, and they too recommended playing with the drive strength. That helped a bit, but not enough. Eventually I just decided to swap the MB and all my troubles was gone.

On a sidenote, before I did that I tried some other graphics cards. The first I had was a GF2 MX, but when I tried a GF3 it was almost stable. So, the card can also be a factor, that could be why you're seeing this when you bought a new card.
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Old 05-09-06, 01:33 PM   #4
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I bought a new card as the latest driver introduced the lockups on my GeForce4!

A brief history:

TNT2 (2xAGP)
GeForce2 (4xAGP yea!) <- I turned it on here (and forgot about), the first card I had to support it.
GeForce4 (4xAGP)
...
a few years later...
...
nVidia driver 1.0-8756 introduced *crash* *crash*
Gave up on GeForce4, new FX5500 TODAY
*crash* *crash* *crash*
Dropped to 2xAGP
All OK again!!

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Old 05-09-06, 03:27 PM   #5
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Default Re: New card (FX5500) - New bloody lock-ups

I am having a very similar issue...

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69745

How exactly do you configure AGP2x or AGP4x? Is that a setting in the system bios? What if there is not a setting for this in your system BIOS? Is there any way to configure the BIOS on an nvidia card (FX5200 for example)?

Much thanks in advance.

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Old 05-09-06, 05:45 PM   #6
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Default Re: New card (FX5500) - New bloody lock-ups

The AGP rate can be set either via the BIOS (in some cases) or via the driver (see the README for the details & instructions).

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Old 05-10-06, 12:11 PM   #7
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-Rob A,

Yes, I have a setting in BIOS -> [x4 or DEFAULT] Default is 2xAGP.


If you don't have that option, I guess configuring the driver to max at 2xAGP is the only way.

But this (all along) was my issue, even though it was like 3 years ago I turned on 4xAGP (and forgot about it). I am really happy tonight

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Old 05-10-06, 12:50 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info. I do not have a setting in my BIOS for AGP rate. I will edit the driver source to use 2x AGP and recompile, according to the documentation. If that works, I can return the PCI FX5500 I bought last night and continue to use my AGP FX5200.

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Old 05-10-06, 01:13 PM   #9
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Rob,

Looking at your logs in the other thread, you card/host-bridge only states it supports 4xAGP and 8xAGP?

Code:
/proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0
Model: 		 GeForce FX 5200
IRQ:   		 21
Video BIOS: 	 04.34.20.42.d1
Card Type: 	 AGP

____________________________________________

/proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
Fast Writes: 	 Not Supported
SBA: 		 Supported
AGP Rates: 	 8x 4x 
Registers: 	 0x1f000e0b:0x1f004302

____________________________________________

/proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge
Host Bridge: 	 PCI device 8086:2578
Fast Writes: 	 Supported
SBA: 		 Supported
AGP Rates: 	 8x 4x 
Registers: 	 0x1f004a1b:0x00000b02
Here is mine:

Code:
nick@linuxamd:nick$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0
Model:           GeForce FX 5500
IRQ:             10
Video BIOS:      04.34.20.87.00
Card Type:       AGP
DMA Size:        32 bits
DMA Mask:        0xffffffff

nick@linuxamd:nick$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
Fast Writes:     Supported
SBA:             Supported
AGP Rates:       4x 2x 1x
Registers:       0x1f000217:0x1f000102

nick@linuxamd:nick$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge
Host Bridge:     PCI device 1106:0305
Fast Writes:     Not Supported
SBA:             Supported
AGP Rates:       2x 1x  <--------- remember here I turned OFF 4xAGP
Registers:       0x1f000203:0x00000102

So I dunno now?

*EDIT* You also have SBA on

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status

- that also supposedly can create unstablity.

Nick
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Old 05-12-06, 11:13 AM   #10
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I tried 4X AGP but I get the same results. I will use the PCI FX5500, and ditch the AGP slot.
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Old 07-12-06, 01:50 PM   #11
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I just want to update this post.

Since I switched to AGP normal (AGPx2) on my MoBo (Via KT7), my system has been totally uncrashable - it is as stable as anything.

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Old 07-13-06, 06:35 PM   #12
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Wow, you guys have no idea how PLEASED I am to read this!

I've spent days troubleshooting this issue, trying everything under the sun.

My last attempt this very morning was to change AGP from 4x to 2x in the BIOS. It looks to have done the job! Funny, guess what forum I stumbled across AFTER I solved it myself (typical!). (pirate)

Anyhow, I've had the exactly same problem under Suse 9.3/10.1 ever since I swapped my motherboard (and kept the same video card). I was hoping it was a bug/incompatibility with 9.3, but alas.

FYI, I'm running an ASUS A7V333, Athlon XP 1800, 512MB DDR2 RAM, Winfast A170 (GeForce4 MX420).

I always assumed it was a bug with the driver, because reverting to the default NV driver with 'sax2 -m0=nv' was always rock solid. Maybe it's because the NVidia driver is ultra-tweaked & my system can't handle it at AGP 4x? Or is it how the driver interprets the 4x? It seems to work fine under <ahem> Windoze...

I can't pick up any serious performance decrease with the 2x setting. Does anyone know if it will affect performance?

Thanks everyone! I'm lovin' Suse 10.1 & my Nvidia!

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