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Old 07-11-06, 09:27 AM   #1
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Default Post here if you think nVidia should hurry the **** up with their XOrg 7.1 drivers

As the topic suggests:
Post here if you think nVidia should hurry the **** up with their xorg 7.1 drivers

I've waited damn long enough, that's for sure.

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Old 07-11-06, 09:41 AM   #2
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Default Re: Post here if you think nVidia should hurry the **** up with their XOrg 7.1 driver

true true!

same request as always... PLEASE release some beta's to test! (pirate)
(or better the final ones)


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Old 07-11-06, 11:13 AM   #3
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Default Re: Post here if you think nVidia should hurry the **** up with their XOrg 7.1 driver

Why is it the case that the legacy drivers can't be included in the Xorg driver source yet.

The GPU's are old, its hardly like nvidia would be releasing any trade secrets by releasing the whole source to the legacy drivers, so that the Xorg 'nv' driver could be more capable (its pretty good already imo).

That way, I'd never need to recompile these legacy drivers ever again for my kernel, they'd just be in Xorg instead.

I must be stupid or something and this is totally not possible. I dont know.

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Old 07-11-06, 01:31 PM   #4
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Default Re: Post here if you think nVidia should hurry the **** up with their XOrg 7.1 driver

I'd rather that NVIDIA *not* hurry and instead do quality work.

Also, the legacy drivers I'm sure are still just as troublesome to release as the non-legacy drivers. They still have IP, possibly much of it licensed from third parties, that cannot be released to the public.
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Old 07-11-06, 02:47 PM   #5
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Default Re: Post here if you think nVidia should hurry the **** up with their XOrg 7.1 driver

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I'd rather that NVIDIA *not* hurry and instead do quality work.

Also, the legacy drivers I'm sure are still just as troublesome to release as the non-legacy drivers. They still have IP, possibly much of it licensed from third parties, that cannot be released to the public.
Maybe the US should just give all software patent and IP laws the boot. We wouldn't have this issue then.

If only it were that simple.
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Old 07-11-06, 03:15 PM   #6
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Default Re: Post here if you think nVidia should hurry the **** up with their XOrg 7.1 driver

hope nvidia can sync its development cycle with the open source cycle, specially xorg development

Nvidia developers can see code changes being implemented in xorg tree months ahead of its stable release unlike proprietary systems (like MS Windows) and that should help them modify their drivers to accommodate the impending release. Hence i believe delay in updating drivers for new packages / OS should be minimum for open source systems.

Drivers for Linux / BSD should also turn out to be more stable as Nvidia can track down the exact cause for the bug, and fix it or suggest / contribute changes to be implemented in the upstream package that are developed in a open environment.

As Nvidia cannot begin QA testing for stable release until code freeze in upstream package (like xorg or kernel) they can atleast put out a Beta simultaneously, so that the really bleeding edge enthusiasts can get their hands dirty and report bugs when they encounter one. (Availability of a alternative like open source "nv" driver really helps to track down a bug that is specific to either driver)
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Old 07-11-06, 05:45 PM   #7
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Default Re: Post here if you think nVidia should hurry the **** up with their XOrg 7.1 driver

Ouch. Another day, another lame thread about what nVidia "should" do.

Read the archives, the issue has been thrashed out from every possible angle. nVidia is not a benevolent participant in the Linux or x.org development, it is a commercial entity which acts in what it sees as its commercial interests. I don't know what value Linux support adds for nVidia (in terms of $$$) but you can bet that a few hundred whining home computer users who want the latest in X11 eye-candy don't figure very highly!

The whole 3D desktop thing is new, in a couple of years it will be established and well-supported. Throwing a tantrum about wanting it RIGHT NOW won't speed it up at all.
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Old 07-11-06, 06:15 PM   #8
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This is not the technical problem. This is pure politics. The more counted users of OS the bigger development team for OS = more acceleartion, more features. Linux users are uncountable - price of privacy and free software.
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Old 07-11-06, 08:32 PM   #9
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Ouch. Another day, another lame thread about what nVidia "should" do.

Read the archives, the issue has been thrashed out from every possible angle. nVidia is not a benevolent participant in the Linux or x.org development, it is a commercial entity which acts in what it sees as its commercial interests. I don't know what value Linux support adds for nVidia (in terms of $$$) but you can bet that a few hundred whining home computer users who want the latest in X11 eye-candy don't figure very highly!

The whole 3D desktop thing is new, in a couple of years it will be established and well-supported. Throwing a tantrum about wanting it RIGHT NOW won't speed it up at all.
I somehow doubt profanity will speed things along either. The moderators posted a month ago that the Xorg 7.1 compatible drivers should be out in August.
1. Do any current distros even use 7.1 yet? ("test" releases don't count...)
2. Does anyone here know what a "development schedual" is?

Okay, I know most of you do. And most of you are avoiding this thread like the plague....
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Old 07-12-06, 01:24 AM   #10
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Gentoo has 7.1 out for all but the x86 and amd64 platforms because of the driver issue. Nvidia and ATI lagging behind is what's preventing 7.1 from being pushed into "stable".

I belive Ubuntu is also using 7.1 now, but I won't be suprized if it's still using 7.0 because of the driver issues.
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Old 07-12-06, 12:24 PM   #11
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IP? Yeah, blame S3TC. There isn't much else in the drivers offhand is there that you can think of?

Thats one patent that needs invalidated, hopefully it happens someday.
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Old 07-12-06, 12:27 PM   #12
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The next driver release will support Xorg-7.1. And before someone asks, I'm afraid that I cannot provide a timeframe for that release right now.

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