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Old 07-27-06, 06:18 PM   #1
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Default yet again screen frozen mouse moves bug

Hi, I'm experiencing the old screen frozen mouse moves bug. After the mouse moving for sometime the machine usually crashes completely (even the mouse doesnt move). I have the following specs:

Ubuntu 6.06
using kernel 2.6.15-26-386
i compiled the nvidia module using gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
(i tried with gcc 3.4 but the installer told me i should build using the same version of gcc as the kernel was built).
some information about cpu:

Code:
 $ cat /proc/cpuinfo

processor       : 0
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 6
model           : 8
model name      : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2100+
stepping        : 1
cpu MHz         : 1733.722
cache size      : 256 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips        : 3470.44
My motherboard: ASUS A7V8X-X using bios version 1013, more information about the motherboard can be found here

My card is this: Inno 3d G-Force FX 5200 128mb

I already tried using nvagp 0, 1, etc. I tried compiling the module using 4x instead of 8x, I tried many combinations but i still get the bug. Im also using the latest driver version (1.0-8762)

Is there some light to solve this bug ?

Thank you
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Old 07-27-06, 06:36 PM   #2
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Please generate and provide an nvidia-bug-report.log after reproducing this problem.

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Old 07-27-06, 07:34 PM   #3
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Default Re: yet again screen frozen mouse moves bug

i too am getting this problem.

my system
CPU Model: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.70GH Speed: 2689.547 MHz Cache: 128 KB NVIDIA NV43 Geforce6600 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762 driver

Linux Fedora Core release 5 (Bordeaux) Kernel: 2.6.17-1.2157_FC5, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.0.0 | Desktop: KDE: 3.5.3

i get this in dmesg:-

NVRM: Xid: 6, PE0000 042c 00ff0000 00000000 00e80072 0008a400
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000
NVRM: Xid: 8, Channel 00000000

this seem to be very random whether i'm useing the computer or if it is sat idel.


thx russ

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Old 07-27-06, 07:57 PM   #4
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Ok, so I managed to crash it by running glxgears and moving the window around while it was running. I tried several 3d screensavers before that (xscreensaver-gl). The problem seems to occur more frequently when in 3d action, but sometimes also with 2d operations. As the machine crashed, i rebooted and ran nvidia-bug-report.sh before X started (in a recovery terminal).

I've attached to the zip file the following:

nvidia-bug-report.log
nvidia-installer.log
xorg.conf
Xorg.0.log
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File Type: zip logs.zip (31.4 KB, 144 views)
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Old 07-27-06, 08:34 PM   #5
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Just if it helps, i ran the bug-report tool again after X started (but before problems happening, as the machine becomes unusable after the problem).
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Old 07-27-06, 08:47 PM   #6
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report from the last freeze
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Old 07-27-06, 09:55 PM   #7
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RussyB, I have a few questions:
0) Have you verified that you're using the latest BIOS for the motherboard?
1) If you set NvAGP to 0 in xorg.conf does that have any impact?
2) If you boot with the noapic and/or acpi=off kernel parameters, does that have any impact?

whitesuit, I have a few questions:
0) Does this problem persist with a more recent kernel (2.6.17.x)?
1) Have you tried reducin the AGP rate in the BIOS?
2) Does setting RenderAccel to false in xorg.conf have any impact?
3) If you boot with the noapic and/or acpi=off kernel parameters, does that have any impact?
4) If you're feeling adventerous there's a beta BIOS available for your motherboard, that might be worth testing.

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Old 07-27-06, 11:20 PM   #8
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Quote:
whitesuit, I have a few questions:
0) Does this problem persist with a more recent kernel (2.6.17.x)?
I dont wanna try kernels that are not in my distribution's repositories (ubuntu 6.06), if I do that then I lose support for everything else I have on my system.

Quote:
1) Have you tried reducin the AGP rate in the BIOS?
It doesnt seem to be possible. It stays "grayed out" at 8x. That's why I recompiled the kernel module using 4x as you can see from the logs. No go.

Quote:
2) Does setting RenderAccel to false in xorg.conf have any impact?
Nope. Still crashes.

Quote:
3) If you boot with the noapic and/or acpi=off kernel parameters, does that have any impact?
Tried it. No go.

Quote:
4) If you're feeling adventerous there's a beta BIOS available for your motherboard, that might be worth testing.
I dont wanna risk that much.

I even tried booting with agp=off and using nvagp, but no go also.

Just on a side note: The nv (open source driver has never crashed on me, though i get poor speed compared to the propietary driver using this).

Something I've noticed, might be nothing but..

In my nvidia-installer.log (attached in the first zip) i have:

Code:
include/asm/bitops.h:326: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned
   In file included from include/linux/list.h:7,
                    from include/linux/wait.h:23,
                    from include/asm/semaphore.h:41,
                    from include/linux/sched.h:20,
                    from include/linux/module.h:10,
                    from /home/cassio/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1/usr/src/nv
   /nv-linux.h:51,
in my Xorg.0.log the last entries are (this is the log i got after rebooting into a recovery terminal after crash and before starting X again):

Code:
(II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
(WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0xf09210a4, 0x0000d398, 0)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (1, 6, 0x8000, 0xf09210a4, 0x0000d398, 0)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0xf09210a4, 0x0000d3a8, 0)
Could this be related to the problem?
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Old 07-27-06, 11:29 PM   #9
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wait.h is unrelated to the WAIT errors in your X log. I'd still advise testing a newer kernel. There's nothing stopping you from going back to the official kernel afterwards.

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Old 07-27-06, 11:42 PM   #10
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I will try. I'd like also to ask, is there a distribution which seems to best behave with the nvidia driver?
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Old 07-28-06, 12:17 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by whitesuit
I will try. I'd like also to ask, is there a distribution which seems to best behave with the nvidia driver?
I use Ubuntu here. I generally custom compile my own kernel, and I think I just use the regular ubuntu nvidia packages.

Gentoo is nice for doing that as well, and doesn't involve having to work around things too much like you do in Ubuntu. On the other hand, I like Ubuntu more. I like being able to quickly install updates to software.
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Old 07-28-06, 01:29 AM   #12
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Gentoo is nice but it gives you too much work that a desktop computer shouldn't bring you. The problem with the default drivers (nv) is that their speed when using AA or 3d applications is very poor.
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