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Old 02-19-09, 02:53 PM   #2353
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Yeah I got a nice performance boost from i7. I'm able to lock my framerate at 30fps, and it stays pegged right at 30 with the settings seen in the shots above.

When using DX9 make sure you have Bloom turned off, and also keep ground scenery shadows off as well. Using Mid 2.x water can help as well, which is what I use even on i7. I also run will AI turned off with the exception of 10% road vehicles. I had no problems satying above 25-30fps using an unlocked framerate with my 3.0GHz Q6600, and that was with nearly the same setings seen above.
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Old 02-22-09, 12:01 AM   #2354
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Here you go.

http://rapidshare.com/files/155935453/Gizmos_SHD.pfl

The FSWC sites seems to be working now.
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Old 02-22-09, 08:19 AM   #2355
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Hi Slawater,
Where can I get that plane. Is it a variant of a DC9 ?

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Old 02-22-09, 09:03 AM   #2356
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I got the C-130 in the end of year sale for $10 its quite nice and not as heavy on frames as i was expecting i dout id have been as impressed at 55!

i might have a go at HD'ing it one day as i think it would look fantastic not sure how cap sim feels about ppl totally gutting all there texture work though

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Old 02-22-09, 02:06 PM   #2357
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Some shots.





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Old 02-22-09, 05:46 PM   #2358
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Hi Sillly,
I just got done ordering a i7 920, Asus P6T Deluxe and 6 GIGS of Corsair Dominator DDR 3.
I notice you are running ur i7 @ 4.2? Which CPU Cooler are you using.

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Old 02-22-09, 09:34 PM   #2359
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Slawter. How is New York treating you. I'm thinking of purchasing this add on but I'm a bit unsure if my system could handle it looking that good.
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Old 02-22-09, 11:44 PM   #2360
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Hi Sillly,
I just got done ordering a i7 920, Asus P6T Deluxe and 6 GIGS of Corsair Dominator DDR 3.
I notice you are running ur i7 @ 4.2? Which CPU Cooler are you using.

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Noctua NH-U12P SE1366, which is the best i7 air cooler on thr market. It handily beats every other cooler out there with only one of the two fans installed, so with both fans it's even better. The second fan takes off another 2-3C.

I'm running with Hyperthreading off to hit that speed, otherwise I can only hit 4.0GHz. i7's run extremely hot, much hotter than Core 2 due to Hyperthreading, but if you disable it they run much cooler than Core 2. Since FSX can't use hyperthreading it can be turned off, especially if you don't have any real need for it. From the tests I've seen only a handfull of apps benefit from it, while most show equal or reduced performance when HT is enabled.

Here's an informative post I have written detailing and overview of my thoughts on i7.....

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First of all I would save your money on the 940 and get a 920. The yields on these chips are so good that the 940 and 965 are not much more likely to produce a better overclock. There's guys out there dropping $1000 on 965's only to find they only hit 4GHz with them, while you've got guys like me hitting 4.2GHz on 920's, which proves even the chips binned as 965's are for the most part no different in potential than the ones binned as 920's. Even at stock voltages(auto) you can get a 920 to 3.5-3.8GHz, and in my view there is no reason at all to not take advatage of the chips overclocking potential, as there is no possible way to damage your chip unless you are overvolting to extreme levels. Heck, even EVGA says 1.475v is fine for 24/7 use, and I only need 1.4v to hit 4.2GHz myself.

When getting a 920 your OC will almost certainly be limited by your QPI/BClock(FSB), which tops out at around 200MHz, so with the 21x multiplier you get with turbo mode enabled you'll end up with 4.2GHz, if your chip can take it. Without turbo you will have the 20x multiplier. Provided you buy an excellent MDB, you should be able to do 200MHz without even a voltage change. I'd go with EVGA my self, as they have written the best BIOS for overclocking. The way turbo mode works varies from one MBD maker to the next, and with an EVGA X58 you can be sure it will run the 21x multiplier anytime turbo is on, plus EVGA gives you their E-LEET OCing utility, which simply rocks.

Take a look at the EVGA X58 OCing guide:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=642527

As to performance, the best part for me is the fact blurries are now a thing of the past. Even with an unlocked framerate textures are snapped into the highest LOD at all times. The micro stutters seen even on a Core 2 Quad system are also a thing of the past. Overall framerate may not go up as much as one would hope, but i7 really brings up the minimum framerates, which is where it counts. Comparing to my 3.0GHz Core 2 Quad, I was seeing a full 50% gain on the minimum value on my benchmark run.

The one downside to my i7/Win7 rig is when running an unlocked framerate, I get horrible herky jerky stutters, not the FSX microstutters we have been living with, but strong jerks that seem to jerk the image 1/4 inch across my screen. This may be a driver issue with Win7, as not all i7 users report this. The solution is to run with a locked framerate, and even with a lock of 30fps, I'm able to stay pegged at 30 with no blurries or stutters of any kind using the kind of settings seen below.

Contrary to some, FSX is not Hyperthreading aware, so in fact it only uses 4 threads, despite the AffinityMask tweaks that make task manager appear as though 8 threads are running. NickN says he has confirmation from somebody at ACES that FSX will not utilize the virtual cores. For this reason I actually turn Hyperthreading OFF, which allows me to reach 4.2GHz, otherwise I can't go over 4.0GHz due to the heat. So by disabling HT I gained 200Mhz, and even with that gain my temps dropped 10-15C under load. I did see a very small lifting of minimum framerate values with HT enabled, though the gain I get from running my CPU/Memory at the higher speeds out weighs that. Since I've got HT disable I used the ussual quad core AF value of 14, which made a noticeable change than without.

If you are specifically looking for more frames around airports the clock speed of the CPU will be your main concern. i7 gives FSX a pipe wide enough to operate without uneeded frame drops and blurries, but if your goal is to push the raw framerate up in intense areas you'll have to push the clock speed up quite a bit. I'd say you need 3.5GHz to make i7 shine, so to make your puchase worth the investment aim for at least 3.5GHz w/ auto voltage.

When choosing a cooler I'd go for the Noctua NH-U12P SE1366, as it handily beats every other cooler on the market in every review I have read. In fact it beats all contenders with only one of its two fan in use. I only have one intalled right now, but will add the other soon. Not only is it the best at cooling, but it is also the most quiet, even with both fans installed.

My motherboard, memory, CPU, and cooler totalled only $820, which is pretty damn good for a 4.2GHz rig with 1600MHz CL7 memory. Check Newegg for an EVGA X58/i7 920 combo deal, as I was able to save $25 on that. Also check Newegg for 6GB OCZ Platinum 1600 CL7 which is down to about $150, and I paid $180 a few weeks ago.

So here's my system values and the cfg tweaks I have settled on after a couple weeks of testing.

200MHz w/ 21x = 4.190GHz CPU @ 1.4v
200MHz w/ 2:8 = 1600MHz memory using 7-7-7-18 1T timings.
Hyperthreading = Disabled

[DISPLAY]
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120

[TERRAIN]
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=2000 //Set in-game autogen to very dense
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=1700

[SCENERY]
SmallPartRejectRadius=3

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=14

[BUFFERPOOLS]
PoolSize=70000000
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Old 02-23-09, 02:42 AM   #2361
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sillyeagle, atfirst thank you for thoughts and advice on core i7, NOW I WILL NEED THEM.
This shot amazes me

Can you share your
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Old 02-23-09, 08:43 AM   #2362
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hey silly, I see you're using AffinityMask=14
well, I found a book where they advice:
CPU cores AffinityMask
......1-----------1
......2-----------3
......3-----------7
......4----------15
I have a G15 Keyboard and I can see on my display the CPU load, I tested both values (14 and 15) and with a value of 15 it uses all 4 cores equal, with a value of 14 it uses 3cores full and aprox. a half of the 4th on my system.
Well, now I'm a bit
Does anybody now wich is right? My subjective feeling during flight is that 15 is better.
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Old 02-23-09, 11:09 AM   #2363
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hey silly, I see you're using AffinityMask=14
well, I found a book where they advice:
CPU cores AffinityMask
......1-----------1
......2-----------3
......3-----------7
......4----------15
I have a G15 Keyboard and I can see on my display the CPU load, I tested both values (14 and 15) and with a value of 15 it uses all 4 cores equal, with a value of 14 it uses 3cores full and aprox. a half of the 4th on my system.
Well, now I'm a bit
Does anybody now wich is right? My subjective feeling during flight is that 15 is better.
yes i tried this a while back cause i have a g15 too. i should of reported my findings. (sry my bad). when i use 15 it shows all 4 cores being used. when i use 14 my FIRST core on my g15 doesn't EVEN get used. this is ONLY my experience. i did some flying around newyork and i don't know why but core 2,3,4 where heavily used and my first core hit maybe 5percent usage.....so i don't know what's up with that so i stick with 15.

i flew at least 15 minutes with 14 and went back to 15.

also when loading up fsx with 14 my first core didn't get used. it showed 75percent on my g15 during until loaded up.
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Oh man watch this video! Turn up your volume and makle sure you watch until the end!!!

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