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Old 10-25-06, 05:26 PM   #13
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Default Re: Nvidia Mcp51 High Definition Audio, really no hopes?

yes alsaconf detects the card perfectly. I had already run it, tried now again and still looks perfect: 2 screenshots as attachments.

I still cannot find any error message... but no sound at all.

# modinfo soundcore
filename: /lib/modules/2.6.16.21-0.25-default/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
description: Core sound module
author: Alan Cox
license: GPL
alias: char-major-14-*
vermagic: 2.6.16.21-0.25-default 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1
supported: yes
depends:
srcversion: DD426F1CCA2CC5F060F6F92



Many thanks again for all the time you're taking to help me, i really appreciate all this
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Old 10-28-06, 11:33 PM   #14
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I'm using FC6 x86_64, I got same promblem too! I tried plink212 step but not work!

Here is my modprobe.conf:

alias scsi_hostadapter sata_nv

alias dev1804289383 forcedeth

alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

whe i run
#rmmod snd-hda-intel
ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel does not exist in /proc/modules

I tried this work with Realtek driver in FC5, but why i can't use in FC6 i try too find why in here for few days......
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Old 10-29-06, 05:32 AM   #15
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I am honestly losing any hopes. I don't even have the system beeps!
I never get any errors at all, everything "looks" perfect but no sound whatsoever. My guess is that nVidia is producing a bunch of cards without bothering at all to check their incompatibility with any OS other than windows. Browsing forums i realized nVidia cards are giving a hell of problems in any distro.

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Old 11-21-06, 01:59 PM   #16
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I have the same problem with a Gateway MX3410 and MCP51 HDA chip. No sound at all.
I actually asked the big guy here (Lonni) about how to make the nvsound driver work in Linux, but eventually he just answered that nvidia no longer supported this driver. Why, I don't know. He just said we were supposed to use ALSA for this audio chip which is supposed to behave the same as an Intel HDA chip. So of course I tried ALSA and intel_hda but it did not even detect anything until I compiled the latest ALSA drivers. Now it detects it but there is no sound.
The problem with the nvsound driver is that it's an OSS driver. A simple indication about where should I start digging in order to make this work in an ALSA based linux would have been nice, but it seems it's actually top secret now, because the big guy no longer wants to talk about it.
So it's either
1. The driver is now top secret (they even removed it from their web pages)
or
2. The driver was never supposed to work, and now they're too ashamed with this. I would be too........
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Old 11-21-06, 04:14 PM   #17
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Thanks much chris_startx for your explanation. It's been very useful to clarify the (shameful) situation.
There's a big bunch of people that have problems with nvidia sound cards. If you browse linux forums, the hardware section is full of unsolved problems with sound cards.
They say its supposed to use ALSA when they DO know (and have always known) that it does not work anyway...
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Old 11-21-06, 04:44 PM   #18
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The old drivers are just available from here:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce

The first nvsound driver was just the intel driver for the linux kernel patched to add the nforce. At that time most kernels didn't recognize the nforce as an intel compatible card yet. At a later stage nvidia improved the driver a bit. Even later they shipped a closedsource nvsound driver which appeared to be based on the windows nforce drivers (it added hw mixing support for the first generation of nforce1/2 cards which had an APU). At some stage they dropped support for this driver in favor of the kernel drivers. I don't know why they did it, perhaps nvsound had some major drawbacks.
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Old 11-21-06, 07:00 PM   #19
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Thanks Thunderbird for the link and for the explanation.

I actually did install that driver, for the network. This did not change anything in the sound tho.
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Old 11-23-06, 11:29 PM   #20
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Just as G0NZ0, I also have installed the network driver and I have to say it works perfectly. I also found an open source driver for the Realtek 8185 wireless, provided by Andrea Merello, I installed it but unfortunately I did not yet test it as I don't have any wireless router or such.
I tried everything with the ALSA driver, patches, modules.conf edits but my laptop is still mute. I downloaded the open source drivers from the location posted by Thunderbird and I will try to dig some more with them. The problem is the driver is OSS and I really have no idea how to load the module but anyways... thanks to nvidia I will waste lots of time on this
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Old 11-30-06, 08:24 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by chris_startx
I have the same problem with a Gateway MX3410 and MCP51 HDA chip.
I have the same notebook and it is mostly NVIDIA parts. It took a long time to get a proper graphics driver and I still have problems (vtys are outputting garbage now). As for sound, I've filed a bug with the ALSA folks and have received absolutely no feedback. The latest (1.0.13) won't even load.

I bought this laptop thinking that I couldn't go wrong with NVIDIA, but it's looking like I've made a mistake. Too late to get my money back now. Hopefully they will listen to our pleas and work with the ALSA community with this and future hardware.


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Old 11-30-06, 08:40 PM   #22
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it really sux that products by huge companies (for which a huge quantity of people spend their $$$) are not supported on any platforms other than windoblows. And nobody seems to care at all.
To be honest, i bet that, for next versions of Alsa drivers, nothing will change at all for these kind of cards.
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Old 12-12-06, 11:10 AM   #23
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The latest (1.0.13) won't even load.
Trying 1.0.14rc1, the driver loads once again and I see new controls in alsamixer (related to the modem?), but still no sound.


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Old 12-12-06, 04:56 PM   #24
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Ahhh dammit!! I saw yesterday the new ALSA stuff and already downloaded it.. I was going to try it soon (and yeah i must admit that i even dared to HOPE...)

Thanks much for the info nageroc, you saved me the wasted time to try...

Aaarrghh.........
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