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Old 11-27-06, 03:34 PM   #1
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Default AIGLX - what kind of specs needed to run?

I have a Dell D800 running Fedora Core 6. Here the specs:

CPU: Pentium M 1.6 Ghz
RAM: 1GB
GPU: nvidia GeForce 4 4200 Go (32MB) (driver 9629)


I've tried using compiz on my laptop, but as soon as I enable it, my laptop slows down to a crawl. The CPU also shoots through the roof.

I know the my laptops 3D specs aren't that great, but I though they were more than enough to run some 3D effects on my desktop. So far I've been proven wrong.

Is my laptop just too wimpy to run AIGLX properly? Have I run into a driver bug? Is it misconfiguration on my part?

Any tips/suggestions would be welome. I'd love to try out compiz with AIGLX.
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Old 11-27-06, 10:41 PM   #2
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Default Re: AIGLX - what kind of specs needed to run?

Beryl works fine on my laptop.

IBM Thinkpad T40
Intel Centrino 1.5ghz
ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility 32MB
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Old 11-28-06, 02:25 AM   #3
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I have a Dell D800 running Fedora Core 6. Here the specs:

CPU: Pentium M 1.6 Ghz
RAM: 1GB
GPU: nvidia GeForce 4 4200 Go (32MB) (driver 9629)


I've tried using compiz on my laptop, but as soon as I enable it, my laptop slows down to a crawl. The CPU also shoots through the roof.
I'd love to try out compiz with AIGLX.
What driver version are you using? If it doesnt have pixmap to texture extension you cannot run beryl or compiz in standard X. You should try XGL server. AIGLX is not for old nvidia drivers AFAIK. If I knew wrong please correct me, ppl.
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Old 11-28-06, 08:18 AM   #4
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What driver version are you using? If it doesnt have pixmap to texture extension you cannot run beryl or compiz in standard X. You should try XGL server. AIGLX is not for old nvidia drivers AFAIK. If I knew wrong please correct me, ppl.
I'm running the latest nvidia driver: 1.0-9629. However, I'm using the packages from the Livna yum repo instead of the driver package directly from nvidiai. Maybe that's the source of my problem. Hmmm...

In any case, how can I tell if the driver I'm using has the "pixmap to texture" extension? Every time I run glxinfo, it seg faults.
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Old 11-28-06, 08:23 AM   #5
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I'm running the latest nvidia driver: 1.0-9629. However, I'm using the packages from the Livna yum repo instead of the driver package directly from nvidiai. Maybe that's the source of my problem. Hmmm...

In any case, how can I tell if the driver I'm using has the "pixmap to texture" extension? Every time I run glxinfo, it seg faults.
Seems you have a major issue. glxinfo shouldnt segfault at all. Look into your /var/log/xorg.0.log for errors "(EE)" or warnings.
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Old 11-28-06, 10:56 AM   #6
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There is a known bug in 1.0-9629 which impacts NV2x GPUs that causes OpenGL applications to segfault.
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Old 11-28-06, 04:08 PM   #7
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There is a known bug in 1.0-9629 which impacts NV2x GPUs that causes OpenGL applications to segfault.
Okay - thanks for the info. That makes me feel better.

I decided to give the beta driver a shot, but it refused to work. My xorg log file stated that the nvidia beta driver wouldn't work for my graphics chip set because it's too old, and that I should instead use a legacy driver.

So, is that going to be the case when it's released, or is the "non support" just temporary during the beta phase? If the GeForce4 4200 Go really is going into legacy mode, what about the nasty bug - it's going to remain??
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Old 11-28-06, 04:16 PM   #8
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Try using the 9626 drivers instead;

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d..._1.0-9626.html



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Try using the 9626 drivers instead;

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d..._1.0-9626.html
I gave that driver a shot: glxinfo and glxgears no longer seg fault (thanks for the link).

However, 3D performance is _still_ absolute crap. It's as if I'm not even using the nvidia driver, and onle have 2D support from the open source nv driver. Something is horribly broken.

I've reviewed the xorg log file many times - I don't see any problems. I can't figure out why compiz performance is so bad. For that matter, any 3D games or screen savers running at full screen either slow down to a couple of FPS, or stop animating completely.
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I gave that driver a shot: glxinfo and glxgears no longer seg fault (thanks for the link).

However, 3D performance is _still_ absolute crap. It's as if I'm not even using the nvidia driver, and onle have 2D support from the open source nv driver. Something is horribly broken.

I've reviewed the xorg log file many times - I don't see any problems. I can't figure out why compiz performance is so bad. For that matter, any 3D games or screen savers running at full screen either slow down to a couple of FPS, or stop animating completely.
Output of glxinfo is okay? ( I mean okay as no MESA indirect rendering in it? )
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Output of glxinfo is okay? ( I mean okay as no MESA indirect rendering in it? )
[ksandhu@krs downloads]$ glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes

Every thing 3D runs very slowly or not at all, including screen savers and simple 3D games, like scorched3d. Something is very broken.

Maybe the nvidia people will find the bug report useful.
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Old 12-08-06, 10:43 AM   #12
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Hi,
Why are you using AIXGL and not nvidia glx ? See comments below.....

I have the same laptop D800 and the same graphics card CPU and RAM (the only diference is that I have 64M Vram) and i am using FC6 . What are your glxgears numbers? Mines are:
13296 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2659.177 FPS
If you have smaller numbers there must be something wrong with your settings (maybe agp mode?).
Try this:
cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status: Enabled
Driver: NVIDIA
AGP Rate: 4x
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Disabled
For me Beryl/Compiz works ok (now I am using 9631 and I can get up to 130fps in beryl using beryl-benchmark). Nevertheless there are some stability bugs, the most annoying is the black window bug (caused by a nvidia driver glitch).

Ahhhh, and i am not using AXGL because is damn slow!!! use nvidia glx mode instead (how are you starting compiz? with --axgl?).
I attach my Xorg file, so you can take a look...I hope I am not off topic...
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