Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks

technoid · 11-29-06, 12:22 PM

I was wondering if anyone would be interested in running a FRAPS based benchmark in Need for Speed Carbon so we can compare graphics cards? I think it would be nice to see how the whole range of Geforce cards run in this game since it definitely slows down most cards.

If you setup FRAPS to record the MinMaxAvg and stop automatically after 90 seconds you can get a pretty good idea of how it performs on your system. What I did was choose the very first race in the Quick Race section and then start the recording as the GO screen appears. If you drive the race not trying to be super fast the recording will end just before the end of the race. The first race is a Speedtrap race so there's no other racers and you get pretty good repeatability from run to run.

I'm at work now but I'll post my results when I get home tonight if anyone is interested in doing this. I'm looking to upgrade my system in the next few weeks so I'm trying to get some numbers for a game that really slows down my 6800GT based system. I'm still on AGP and am thinking about a 7950GT or 8800GTS upgrade.

technoid · 11-29-06, 08:39 PM

Here's my FRAPS benchmarks before and after installing the new beta drivers. I was hoping the new drivers would speed the game up but as you can see the new drivers didn't change it at all. I did two runs before and after installing the new drivers.

Processor: Pentium4 3.4 Gig
Memory: Kingston Value Ram 2 GB
Graphics: AGP EVGA 6800GT

Game Settings

1280x960
AA = Off
Filtering = Trilinear
Shader Detail = Medium
V-Sync = Off
World Detail = Medium
Road Reflection Detail = Low
Car Detail = High
Car Reflection Update Rate = Medium
Rain = On
Visual Treatment = High
Motion Blur = Off
Particle System = On

Track: 1st Quck Race - Morgan Beach Offramp
Car: Tuner Tier 2 RX-7

--------------------------------------------------------------

BEFORE INSTALLING BETA DRIVERS - 93.71-WHQL

2006-11-29 06:27:12 - NFSC
Frames: 3141 - Time: 90000ms - Avg: 34.900 - Min: 28 - Max: 42

2006-11-29 06:30:12 - NFSC
Frames: 3118 - Time: 90000ms - Avg: 34.644 - Min: 29 - Max: 42

--------------------------------------------------------------

AFTER INSTALLING BETA DRIVERS - 93.81 Beta Drivers

2006-11-29 06:46:09 - NFSC
Frames: 3065 - Time: 90000ms - Avg: 34.056 - Min: 28 - Max: 41

2006-11-29 06:48:40 - NFSC
Frames: 3120 - Time: 90000ms - Avg: 34.667 - Min: 29 - Max: 42

--------------------------------------------------------------

OWA · 11-29-06, 10:20 PM

Here's the last one I did. It was one of the quick races. Max settings except motion blur was off. It's the whole race.

2006-11-22 14:38:52 - NFSC (97.02 drivers)
Frames: 7702 - Time: 119170ms - Avg: 64.630 - Min: 45 - Max: 80

technoid · 11-30-06, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OWA

Here's the last one I did. It was one of the quick races. Max settings except motion blur was off. It's the whole race.

2006-11-22 14:38:52 - NFSC (97.02 drivers)
Frames: 7702 - Time: 119170ms - Avg: 64.630 - Min: 45 - Max: 80

Very Cool... Thanks for the info

What resolution were you running?

I added game settings to my benchmark post this morning. I just recorded an entire race with other cars.

2006-11-30 06:18:36 - NFSC (Sprint: Dover and Lepus - Fourth Quick Race)
Frames: 3326 - Time: 101008ms - Avg: 32.928 - Min: 20 - Max: 43

OWA · 11-30-06, 09:48 AM

I'll have to check and possibly redo it. At one point I was using a hack so I could run it at 1920x1200 but those results might have been 1600x1200. I can't remember. I'll try it again tonight to verify.

OWA · 11-30-06, 03:18 PM

The last one I think was at 1600x1200. Here is one at 1920x1200 with one of the resolution hacks. All settings maxed except motion blur off. This was the first quick race (circuit) using the default Mustang.

2006-11-30 16:12:42 - NFSC
Frames: 7047 - Time: 122243ms - Avg: 57.647 - Min: 44 - Max: 70

technoid · 12-01-06, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OWA

The last one I think was at 1600x1200. Here is one at 1920x1200 with one of the resolution hacks. All settings maxed except motion blur off. This was the first quick race (circuit) using the default Mustang.

2006-11-30 16:12:42 - NFSC
Frames: 7047 - Time: 122243ms - Avg: 57.647 - Min: 44 - Max: 70

Thanks again for the benchmarks. I guess an 8800GTS would really fly for me because I run at 1280x1024 at most.

nmdelrio · 12-01-06, 06:51 AM

Processor: Core 2 Duo E6600 (stock)
Memory: Corsair TwinX2048 5400 C4 (stock)
Graphics: eVGA 2x7950GX2 Quad-SLI
more rig specs, see sig

Game Settings

1280x1024
AA2X
Filtering = Trilinear
Shader Detail = Medium
V-Sync = Off
World Detail = High
Road Reflection Detail = High
Car Detail = High
Car Reflection Update Rate = High
Rain = On
Visual Treatment = High
Motion Blur = On
Particle System = On

Track: Quick Race - Circuit Silk Road
Car: Mazda 3 MPS

--------------------------------------------------------------

Drivers 92.91-Beta

2006-12-01 11:35:24 - NFSC
Frames: 6097 - Time: 218065ms - Avg: 27.86 - Min: 16 - Max: 55

ASUSEN7900GTX · 12-01-06, 09:27 AM

93.81

16xAF 8sxAA

all game video settings maxed

Frames Time (ms) Min, Max, Average
5352, 162119, 19, 50, 33.013

well i´ll give you more when i install drivers to see wich works best

my rig A64 3700+
GF7900GTX 512MB
1GB ram

technoid · 12-02-06, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASUSEN7900GTX

93.81

16xAF 8sxAA

all game video settings maxed

Frames Time (ms) Min, Max, Average
5352, 162119, 19, 50, 33.013

well i´ll give you more when i install drivers to see wich works best

my rig A64 3700+
GF7900GTX 512MB
1GB ram

Thanks for the benchmarks. Would you mind doing another one for me? Use the fourth quick race track (dover and lepus) with No AA, Triliner Filtering, and Motoin Blur OFF to see how fast the 7900GTX will go without AA, AF, and Motion Blur. That's what I'm running now and I would like to see how well your 7900GTX does running like that with everything maxed but those settings. Thanks for your help

juampi83 · 12-19-06, 12:05 PM

Game Settings (ALL MAXED except AA set to Off)

1024x768
AA = Off
Filtering = Anisotropic
Shader Detail = HIGH
V-Sync = Off
World Detail = High
Road Reflection Detail = High
Car Detail = High
Car Reflection Update Rate = High
Rain = On
Visual Treatment = High
Motion Blur = On
Particle System = On

FRAPS Results:

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
4516, 90000, 36, 87, 50.178

Tested on Quick Race (Number 8)

My System:

Athlon64 3200+ @ 2,4 Ghz
1 GB Ram
Radeon X1950XT 256MB DDR3
Topower 420P5

I noticed that the SHADER DETAIL option is very important when benchmarking. When going from MEDIUM to HIGH, frames drop a lot, that's why I thing we should all test the game with SHADER DETAIL set to HIGH, so as to get representative benchmarks.

It's also important to use a "CITY" track than a "CANYON" one. When riding a city track the graphic charge is quite bigger. For example, when I benchmark on a Canyon track I get this results:

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5846, 90000, 39, 90, 64.956

As you can see, performance is much better.

11-29-06, 12:22 PM	#1
technoid Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 505	Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks I was wondering if anyone would be interested in running a FRAPS based benchmark in Need for Speed Carbon so we can compare graphics cards? I think it would be nice to see how the whole range of Geforce cards run in this game since it definitely slows down most cards. If you setup FRAPS to record the MinMaxAvg and stop automatically after 90 seconds you can get a pretty good idea of how it performs on your system. What I did was choose the very first race in the Quick Race section and then start the recording as the GO screen appears. If you drive the race not trying to be super fast the recording will end just before the end of the race. The first race is a Speedtrap race so there's no other racers and you get pretty good repeatability from run to run. I'm at work now but I'll post my results when I get home tonight if anyone is interested in doing this. I'm looking to upgrade my system in the next few weeks so I'm trying to get some numbers for a game that really slows down my 6800GT based system. I'm still on AGP and am thinking about a 7950GT or 8800GTS upgrade.

11-29-06, 08:39 PM	#2
technoid Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 505	Re: Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks Here's my FRAPS benchmarks before and after installing the new beta drivers. I was hoping the new drivers would speed the game up but as you can see the new drivers didn't change it at all. I did two runs before and after installing the new drivers. Processor: Pentium4 3.4 Gig Memory: Kingston Value Ram 2 GB Graphics: AGP EVGA 6800GT Game Settings 1280x960 AA = Off Filtering = Trilinear Shader Detail = Medium V-Sync = Off World Detail = Medium Road Reflection Detail = Low Car Detail = High Car Reflection Update Rate = Medium Rain = On Visual Treatment = High Motion Blur = Off Particle System = On Track: 1st Quck Race - Morgan Beach Offramp Car: Tuner Tier 2 RX-7 -------------------------------------------------------------- BEFORE INSTALLING BETA DRIVERS - 93.71-WHQL 2006-11-29 06:27:12 - NFSC Frames: 3141 - Time: 90000ms - Avg: 34.900 - Min: 28 - Max: 42 2006-11-29 06:30:12 - NFSC Frames: 3118 - Time: 90000ms - Avg: 34.644 - Min: 29 - Max: 42 -------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER INSTALLING BETA DRIVERS - 93.81 Beta Drivers 2006-11-29 06:46:09 - NFSC Frames: 3065 - Time: 90000ms - Avg: 34.056 - Min: 28 - Max: 41 2006-11-29 06:48:40 - NFSC Frames: 3120 - Time: 90000ms - Avg: 34.667 - Min: 29 - Max: 42 -------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by technoid; 11-30-06 at 06:06 AM.

11-29-06, 10:20 PM	#3
OWA ... Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,481	Re: Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks Here's the last one I did. It was one of the quick races. Max settings except motion blur was off. It's the whole race. 2006-11-22 14:38:52 - NFSC (97.02 drivers) Frames: 7702 - Time: 119170ms - Avg: 64.630 - Min: 45 - Max: 80

11-30-06, 09:48 AM	#5
OWA ... Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,481	Re: Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks I'll have to check and possibly redo it. At one point I was using a hack so I could run it at 1920x1200 but those results might have been 1600x1200. I can't remember. I'll try it again tonight to verify.

11-30-06, 03:18 PM	#6
OWA ... Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,481	Re: Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks The last one I think was at 1600x1200. Here is one at 1920x1200 with one of the resolution hacks. All settings maxed except motion blur off. This was the first quick race (circuit) using the default Mustang. 2006-11-30 16:12:42 - NFSC Frames: 7047 - Time: 122243ms - Avg: 57.647 - Min: 44 - Max: 70

12-01-06, 06:51 AM	#8
nmdelrio Disturbed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 264	Re: Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks Processor: Core 2 Duo E6600 (stock) Memory: Corsair TwinX2048 5400 C4 (stock) Graphics: eVGA 2x7950GX2 Quad-SLI more rig specs, see sig Game Settings 1280x1024 AA2X Filtering = Trilinear Shader Detail = Medium V-Sync = Off World Detail = High Road Reflection Detail = High Car Detail = High Car Reflection Update Rate = High Rain = On Visual Treatment = High Motion Blur = On Particle System = On Track: Quick Race - Circuit Silk Road Car: Mazda 3 MPS -------------------------------------------------------------- Drivers 92.91-Beta 2006-12-01 11:35:24 - NFSC Frames: 6097 - Time: 218065ms - Avg: 27.86 - Min: 16 - Max: 55 __________________ Your Kung-Fu is weak, old man. \| Danger Den liquid-cooled Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @3.4GHz \| Asus P5K Deluxe/WiFi-AP \| Corsair DDR2 4Gb Dominator 8500C5D w AirFlow fan \| OCZ GameXstream 700W PSU \| Danger Den liquid-cooled eVGA 8800GTS 640Mb \| Audigy2 ZS \| 2x OCZ Core Series 64GB SSDs (RAID0) + 2x WD Raptor 150Gb + 1x WD Caviar RE2 500Gb + 3x Maxtor 7200.10 500Gb + 2x WD Caviar RE2 500Gb eSATA + 1x WD Caviar SE16 1TB eSATa + 1x WD My My Book Home Ed 1TB eSATA \| Thermaltake Armour Black Case \| & Asus Eee PC 900/XP Home Ed. \| Pearl White \| intel Celeron M 353 900MHz @ 990MHz \| 2Gb DDR2 RAM Upgrade\| 4Gb SSD + 8Gb Flash Memory \|

12-01-06, 09:27 AM	#9
ASUSEN7900GTX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,646	Re: Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks 93.81 16xAF 8sxAA all game video settings maxed Frames Time (ms) Min, Max, Average 5352, 162119, 19, 50, 33.013 well i´ll give you more when i install drivers to see wich works best my rig A64 3700+ GF7900GTX 512MB 1GB ram __________________ Intel I7 920 gigabyte HD6970 2gb 6GB DDR3 Asus P6t deluxe V2 "be to others as you want others to be against you" some wiseass came up with it

12-19-06, 12:05 PM	#11
juampi83 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Re: Need for Speed Carbon Benchmarks Game Settings (ALL MAXED except AA set to Off) 1024x768 AA = Off Filtering = Anisotropic Shader Detail = HIGH V-Sync = Off World Detail = High Road Reflection Detail = High Car Detail = High Car Reflection Update Rate = High Rain = On Visual Treatment = High Motion Blur = On Particle System = On FRAPS Results: Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 4516, 90000, 36, 87, 50.178 Tested on Quick Race (Number 8) My System: Athlon64 3200+ @ 2,4 Ghz 1 GB Ram Radeon X1950XT 256MB DDR3 Topower 420P5 I noticed that the SHADER DETAIL option is very important when benchmarking. When going from MEDIUM to HIGH, frames drop a lot, that's why I thing we should all test the game with SHADER DETAIL set to HIGH, so as to get representative benchmarks. It's also important to use a "CITY" track than a "CANYON" one. When riding a city track the graphic charge is quite bigger. For example, when I benchmark on a Canyon track I get this results: Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 5846, 90000, 39, 90, 64.956 As you can see, performance is much better.

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