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Old 01-04-07, 10:10 AM   #37
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its funny that sony sets are having issues with 1080p considering they are championing it with the P$3
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thanks for the heads up i was under the impression that the 50" xx87w model was only a 1080i display, that's why i was looking at the xx88w. I realized that the site i was on had some misinformation on both displays after viewing the actual samsung spec sheet.

All digital RPTV's are progressive. 720p or 1080p, no i's.
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I was thinking of possibly getting a Sony set too because I am happy with my Sony Tube... now not so much
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I was thinking of possibly getting a Sony set too because I am happy with my Sony Tube... now not so much
Why is that? Just curious...
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For me, it was between this and the Sony XBR2 60". But I couldn't justify the huge price difference for similar (showroom) quality (IMO) and the extra 4" of diagonal real-estate -- especially since I got the samsung with free shipping and free stand. Plus, with all of the 1080p problems I've been hearing over at avsforum with the Sony sets, I decided to steer clear of the Sony.
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thats why
Ask evilchris if he has problems with his Sony TV or TVs since I think he owns more than one.
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Old 01-04-07, 11:00 AM   #43
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No 1080p on Component, VGA is a wash (at least for XBR2/A2000)... I should clarify that VGA seems to work with other components, like HTPCs @ 1920x1080, but for some reason the X360 doesn't want to work.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...highlight=xbr2
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...highlight=xbr2

I don't know if there are newer threads, but that is the general consensus which I was receiving while researching my new TV. That, and my local HT store couldn't sell me up on the XBR2 over the Samsung.
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Isn't it no 1080p over component for the 40 & 46 inch but the 50inch has it.

Weird decision but I remember reading that.
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Ask evilchris if he has problems with his Sony TV or TVs since I think he owns more than one.
There are no 1080p problems. The set is optically perfect. I think he means 1080p support, as 1080p is not supported over component. Which doesn't matter as the set itself deinterlaces everything to progressive anyway.

PQ was my primary motivator, and the XBR2's cannot be beat in that department by any DLP set. My budget was whatever and I went with the 70" XBR2 fwiw. DLP just didn't have the black level performance I was looking for.

Jeff Meier of Accucal ( UMR on AVSforum ), an extremely in demand ISF calibrator, would agree with my statements above.
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I'm looking @ the 40- 50" range myself
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There are no 1080p problems. The set is optically perfect. I think he means 1080p support, as 1080p is not supported over component. Which doesn't matter as the set itself deinterlaces everything to progressive anyway.

PQ was my primary motivator, and the XBR2's cannot be beat in that department by any DLP set. My budget was whatever and I went with the 70" XBR2 fwiw. DLP just didn't have the black level performance I was looking for.

Jeff Meier of Accucal ( UMR on AVSforum ), an extremely in demand ISF calibrator, would agree with my statements above.
That is what I thought.

While Sony can talk a lot of bs sometimes their display division puts out some excellent products.
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There are no 1080p problems. The set is optically perfect. I think he means 1080p support, as 1080p is not supported over component. Which doesn't matter as the set itself deinterlaces everything to progressive anyway.

PQ was my primary motivator, and the XBR2's cannot be beat in that department by any DLP set. My budget was whatever and I went with the 70" XBR2 fwiw. DLP just didn't have the black level performance I was looking for.

Jeff Meier of Accucal ( UMR on AVSforum ), an extremely in demand ISF calibrator, would agree with my statements above.
Yes, I apologize, I should have been more clear. The Sony TVs we were discussing are by all means 1080p televisions; I was talking about "compatibility" issues with the Xbox 360 and the Sony TVs (and to a lesser extent, the Samsungs).

However, evilchris, I have to respectfully yet tentatively disagree with your statement about XBR2 "beating" any DLP set. If each set were correctly calibrated (assuming a good DLP set was used, such as the latest HLSxx88/87 models), I would hazard a guess that the contrast and black levels would be very comparable and un-noticable to the unaided eye. Now, I haven't seen two professionally calibrated TVs side-by-side, these are observations that I've made by seeing two non-calibrated sets in-house (which were still pretty much on par).

At these price points and level of sophistication (and various qwirks of each technology), it really is a matter of personal preference. Like you said, if money is no object and/or you see DLP "rainbows" (I don't) then the higher end Sonys are your best bet. Otherwise, I feel it is a matter of opinion.

However, with that all said, I DID see some noticable improvements the 60" XBR2 had over the Samsung, and that was with SD content; the XBR2 seemed more 'lively' and clear.
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