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Old 01-17-07, 03:13 PM   #13
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So Q wasn't being facetious.
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Old 01-17-07, 03:19 PM   #14
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I was only partially being fatecous...fashist...facist..........facetious.

I was making a joke about how Resistance used something like 17GB of padding. Unless you don't compress your textures at all, which makes NO sense even in the world of 1080P, how can you use much more than 10GB MAX for the game alone? Either its padding, a bunch of HD video, or both.

Think about some of the HUGE games we have that fit on 2 DVD's with plenty of space to spare.
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Old 01-17-07, 03:22 PM   #15
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MGS has always been realtime cut scenes. Audio could be another part that takes up a nice chunk but damn hopefully Kojima will say what it is that takes up all the space. Knowing him there will probably be an interview or something where he will say why.
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Old 01-17-07, 03:29 PM   #16
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That just sounds so boring.
The Metal Gear Solid series is comprised of THE best games of all time(especially the first one). The first Metal Gear Solid game is(in my opinion), the most revolutionary game of all time. Anything but boring.
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Old 01-17-07, 03:32 PM   #17
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to each his own though. I was never a real big fan of the splinter cell games, although I did play all the way through the first one.

I would rather get my story in ways that Q4, HL2, Halo 1 + 2 did it. There were cut scenes, but they were not the whole game.
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to each his own though. I was never a real big fan of the splinter cell games, although I did play all the way through the first one.

I would rather get my story in ways that Q4, HL2, Halo 1 + 2 did it. There were cut scenes, but they were not the whole game.
Cut scenes are not the whole game though. I find that they usually give you a cutscene in MGS when you've just beaten a difficult stage/boss. Which to me feels kind of rewarding, then you watch the story unfold and prep for the next part of the mission.
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Ok, then I have no idea what the game is actually like then. I guess to someone who knows the series these little tid bits actually mean something to them. To me they don't mean much.
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The quote in the OP article was taken out of context, he actually didnt mention 50GB at all in kojima's orginal quote. He just said 25GB wouldnt be all that hard to fill with next gen assets, mainly [uncompressed] sound.
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wow, thats a pretty bad out of context if true. So really MGS4 could come out on a DVD9 or two if he wanted.
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wow, thats a pretty bad out of context if true. So really MGS4 could come out on a DVD9 or two if he wanted.
I'll try finding the exact quote. It sounded like kojima will take use of blu-ray's space, but he didnt exactly say 50GB's worth. The game could be 15GB for all I know.

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On working with Blu-ray
"You may hear Blu-ray is huge, gigantic, 20GB or so, but that's not really that big to us. One basic [gameplay] frame with HD visuals and 5.1 sound takes up so much space that the capacity will become too small in no time."
As you can see, no mention of 50GB.

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With next-generation consoles, both cinematics and in-game sound will closely resemble those found in Hollywood films," according to Kojima. He fully expects gamers to "be surprised by the quality of sound coming into their ears--the sound will react to their conditions in the 3D world like never before." For example, in the scenario where a bottle falls off a table, hits a metal shovel, and then rolls onto a carpet, conventional sound processing would have the bottle make the same sounds regardless of the environment, or what it collides with. That same scenario on the PlayStation 3 might have the bottle make a metallic tink when it hits the shovel, and then create a muffled rolling sound as it travels across the carpet. If the room had its own sound variables, the bottles sound might get take on some echo if in a bathroom, or get slightly quieter if in a bedroom. Then you have to factor in on-the-fly surround encoding, which would make the bottle pan from front to back or side to side in your room, depending upon the way it rolled.

The Metal Gear Solid team flew around the world to capture specific sounds for environments in the game. The group actually lugged surround-sound audio-recording equipment to capture sounds from undisclosed locations all around the world. Kojima's team also recorded special sound effects just for the game, instead of using prerecorded, CD-based sounds.

The new audio-processing capabilities of the PlayStation 3 allow Kojima and his team to manipulate sound in a variety of different ways. Kojima says that, "With this power, we can give the player a better environment to experience, as the hardware can produce more sounds in real time based on where the player is in a room and what objects are in that room." Last year's Tokyo Game Show trailer emphasized the theme "No place to hide!" and Kojima, as sound director, will do all he can to envelop the player in the world of Metal Gear Solid. "In a battlefield with no place to hide, you will hear impending dangers all around you, in all 360 degrees
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It all very good to hear, but I have gotten 2 warnings from my apartment's safety officer for loud noise from my TV. Do you think I would care abt 30 GB of loud noise?????
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Another propaganda thread from AthlonXP1800. What else is new??
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