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Old 01-25-07, 04:06 PM   #1
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Well i decided to go the E4300 route as it was over 5x cheaper then what i was going to get the QX6700 which i had a hard time Stomaching the price for a processor. The average overclock for the E4300 is about 3.47Ghz with air cooling got myself a Thermalright Ultra 120 so hoping for better results, so i thought that was better value for money. Decided to pay the remainder of 8800GTX that i currently own off, one less thing to worry about down the line. Can't complain about a 90% overclock pretty sure it will thrash my X2 with nearly 1GHz diffrence!, once i sell the 7800GTX cards, board and processor with memory i think the upgrade cost would be pretty much nothing. Then will look into buying a further 2GB memory as Surpreme commander is using 98% of my 2GB memory at the moment.

so my system will now be

Intel Core2 E4300 (hoping for 9x400 for 3.6GHz 100% o/c) might need 1.65v
2GB Corsair Dominator PC6400C4
ThermalRight Ultra 120
ASUS P5N32-E nForce 680i
ASUS EN8800GTX
ASUS DVD burner and reader
2x Raptor X drives

what will be replaced, X2 4400+ @2.66GHz
2GB Crucial PC4000
MSI K8N SLi Diomond PLUS (last MSI board i will ever own ever!)

was going to get a 2nd GTX but with a rez of 1680x1050 i don't think it's really worth it?

This my my first Intel processor since the P4 2.8Ghz Northwood which was so horrible i gone back to my XP 2500+ @ 2.4GHz after 1 day of using the P4 which could barely handle 3.4GHz
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Old 01-27-07, 08:31 PM   #2
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I would save more money by getting the ASUS 650i SLI,I have both a EVGA 680i SLI and a ASUS 650i SLI and the 650i will overclock higher then my 680i ,I can do 2000 or a 500 FSB with my 650i and with my 680i the highest I can do is 1650 or 412.5 FSB stable.The 680i will run at higher speeds on the memory ,I can do 1200 and with the 650i about 1000 is the highest it will do ,but if you are going to use PC6400C4D,then that would be nothing to worry about since either board will runn 800mhz with no problems.
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Old 01-27-07, 08:46 PM   #3
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Well i decided to go the E4300 route as it was over 5x cheaper then what i was going to get the QX6700 which i had a hard time Stomaching the price for a processor. The average overclock for the E4300 is about 3.47Ghz with air cooling got myself a Thermalright Ultra 120 so hoping for better results, so i thought that was better value for money. Decided to pay the remainder of 8800GTX that i currently own off, one less thing to worry about down the line. Can't complain about a 90% overclock pretty sure it will thrash my X2 with nearly 1GHz diffrence!, once i sell the 7800GTX cards, board and processor with memory i think the upgrade cost would be pretty much nothing. Then will look into buying a further 2GB memory as Surpreme commander is using 98% of my 2GB memory at the moment.

so my system will now be

Intel Core2 E4300 (hoping for 9x400 for 3.6GHz 100% o/c) might need 1.65v
2GB Corsair Dominator PC6400C4
ThermalRight Ultra 120
ASUS P5N32-E nForce 680i
ASUS EN8800GTX
ASUS DVD burner and reader
2x Raptor X drives

what will be replaced, X2 4400+ @2.66GHz
2GB Crucial PC4000
MSI K8N SLi Diomond PLUS (last MSI board i will ever own ever!)

was going to get a 2nd GTX but with a rez of 1680x1050 i don't think it's really worth it?

This my my first Intel processor since the P4 2.8Ghz Northwood which was so horrible i gone back to my XP 2500+ @ 2.4GHz after 1 day of using the P4 which could barely handle 3.4GHz
We can argue all day about the second GTX, but I think you won't need it at this point in time. I can already run everything I want to with either 8AA or 16AA / 16AF @ 1920 x 1200 on 1 GTX. There are a few exceptions obviously, but unless you are a detail freak I don't think you'll mind suffering with 4x AA. At 1680 x 1050, you can probably run everything at 8x AA or better, regardless or the game.
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Old 01-27-07, 10:28 PM   #4
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Get 1 GTX for now. If you find it isn't enough (which I seriously doubt you will) you can get one later on. I feel a price drop coming up when ATI comes out with their card.
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Old 01-28-07, 05:57 AM   #5
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Already got a single GTX but am limited to 1680x1050 on my Dell monitor. I was debating on the NF650 but funny enough the P5N32-E dropped in price when i ordered it to the same price as the P5N32-E SLI Plus price which made it all confusing noticed nVidia have two nForce 680 drivers, ones 680I and the other is 680A. My Target FSB is 400MHz FSB or 1600Mhz QDR and memory 800MHz C4-4-4-12
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Old 01-29-07, 07:55 AM   #6
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Got the stuff this morning but couldn't change it over as i had work Wow the dominator memory looks great in person. The change over from a socket to a LGA was qite a diffrence with the processors using contact pads this is probly the first Intel processor i have had since my Celeron 500 some years ago. Well did have the P4 Northwood but only for the one day, hated the MSI board to death. Checked the manual and in the BIOS it's stated Athe SUS P5N32-E can have the voltage of 1.9v i see i am going to love this board. So when i get in i am going to change everything i'll need to recreat the RAID more the likely so have backed everything up already thinking of installing Vista by it's self.

Will be back tomorrow and tell you how far i can get this thing overclocked. I am determined to get a 100% overclock my ThermalRight Ultra 120 with the 1700rom fan should be enough 70CFM airflow @ 36dBA
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Old 01-29-07, 07:48 PM   #7
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Well this is the most i got out of it so far, the ASUS P5N32-E voltage is crap it's either to low or too high, the gap is either 1.4v or 1.63v can't seem to get it inbetween
This is the E4300 @ 3GHz 1.4v defualt is 1.32v



Well i am able to get higher got to 3.2GHz not much more sadly seems these CPU's are binned for a reason i can't seem to get much more out of the FSB, the CPU wants to go higher but the FSB is failing, tried droping the multiplier.

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Old 01-30-07, 05:37 AM   #8
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Seem to be having a few problems when i overclocked it i disabled the ATA133 ports once i enable them they blue screen. After looking about there seems to be an issue with them so looks like i WILL have to get SATA DVD RW's good bye ATA. Problem being is SATA DVD-R are hard to get in the UK keeping my eye on the ASUS 18x Light Scripe writers they are only 25 but noone has them in stock seems every site will be getting them about 5-9th of feb.
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Old 01-30-07, 06:19 AM   #9
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Good Luck, Dazz! Why would your IDE controllers be failing? Doesn't your mobo allow you to fix the pci bus speed?

Just curious. sounds weird to me.
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Old 01-30-07, 06:57 PM   #10
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Well my P5N32-E is faulty found out 3 out of 4 DIMM's are faulty!!! checked at the ASUS fourms and the problems with this board is HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will have to RMA but i think i might give the Plus version of the board a shot. I do not want another P5N32-E so will try the P5N32-E Plus hopefully
they will of fixed the problems.

What a bumer, also i can't get the system to post past default clock speeds anymore.
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pci ide card...?
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Old 02-01-07, 03:47 PM   #12
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Well i found my problem took 2 days to catch on, seems when i unlock my FSB from my memory using the Unlinked mode in the BIOS it causes BSOD reboots programs crashing including Internet Explorer etc. Now this shows up more i overclock it so using 888MHz FSB + 800Mhz Memeory i can't do anything with the PC it will simple BSOD or comes up windows can't locate files trying reinstalling files. Now out of luck i thought to try it linked so running the FSB @ 888MHz and memory at 888MHz it's is 100% stable. So this is either A: a fualt with the board or B: BIOS issue, kind of a big issue considering they trout it as an overclockers board. Do you guys think i have a reason to RMA this with ASUS for the Plus version of the board which i hope is better?

Update:

Well this has been proved now, i thought to play a bit more, got the CPU @ 3GHz now 1333MHz with 5:3 multiplire = 888MHz Memory and it WORKS no files missing windows working etc!!! Clearly this fixed memory and FSB DOES NOT WORK. Damn should of got some PC8500 Ram now
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