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Old 02-02-07, 10:33 AM   #1
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Default Narrowing down my upgrade decisions. Have questions.

Alright I've got around a thousand bucks now (still saving though) for my machine upgrade which I'm planning on doing in about a month.

I've pretty much decided on the E6600 but the motherboard is still up in the air.

I've read a lot of problems regarding oc'ing with the 680i boards and also due to their high price, they're out. The 650i's are the next consideration.

I've read good oc'ing results with the EVGA 650i board. Are there any decent intel chipset offerings that would be comparable in both price and overclockabilty?

What I'm wanting from the CPU is just a good solid reliable 3.0 ghz. If it can happen and go through a 24 hour beatdown stress test on stock cooling, great but if swinging an extra $50 for a good zalman or something means a 100% stable system, that fifty bucks is easily justifiable.

The next question I have is regarding memory. I'm looking at the Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800. I know it obviously runs at 800mhz but the E6600 is running at 1066 mhz. How will this come into play when I start overclocking the CPU? Will this mean that the ram will be put under more stress to try and match the CPU?

Is it REALLY going to be worth it to pay double the price for that slight increase in speed? Or will the system be able to easily handle a 3ghz clock with the DDR 800?

I've heard mixed reviews regarding the XMS2 in the 650i boards as well. Any equally stable/quick DDR2 800 alternatives? Is the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe worth the extra $80?

Sorry for all the questions. I've been out of the hardware/oc'ing game for years now and I just want to make sure that whatever I get will play nice for a long time and won't give me a headache trying to get it up and running.
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Old 02-02-07, 11:43 AM   #2
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Default Re: Narrowing down my upgrade decisions. Have questions.

if you are going to have a RAID setup or want to OC at or beyond 500 FSB I would go with an intel chipset
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Old 02-02-07, 11:47 AM   #3
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if you are going to have a RAID setup or want to OC at or beyond 500 FSB I would go with an intel chipset
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Old 02-02-07, 12:07 PM   #4
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Yeah, mine topped at 506MHz but the performance in games comes with the 9 multiplier for me so the oc on the memory bus is more important at the present.
Hmm, guess I should unhook my Raid? What's your experience with Raid on this chipset?
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Old 02-02-07, 12:29 PM   #5
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Yeah, mine topped at 506MHz but the performance in games comes with the 9 multiplier for me so the oc on the memory bus is more important at the present.
Hmm, guess I should unhook my Raid? What's your experience with Raid on this chipset?
slow compared to the ICH8 with intel.
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Old 02-02-07, 01:35 PM   #6
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Default Re: Narrowing down my upgrade decisions. Have questions.

I'm not using raid. And wouldn't a 500+ mhz oc require serious cooling? Or is my multiplication wrong?
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I'm not using raid. And wouldn't a 500+ mhz oc require serious cooling? Or is my multiplication wrong?
That depends. You could (if the numbers work out right) have a 500 fsb and not overclock your cpu at all or your ram. Only your fsb would be overclocked. Which may or may not need a little extra cooling.

If your talking about a 500 mhz overclock on a cpu, that would depend on the cpu and what voltage it takes to get that oc.
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Depends on the brand of cpu, voltage used on it, etc.

Get an aftermarket cooler if you want to be safe.. I'm not really knowledgable about how the core 2 duo's are for temperatures when overclocked, but they should be better than their predecessors.
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Default Re: Narrowing down my upgrade decisions. Have questions.

Eh, seems like there are promising numbers from the 650i/E6600.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2894&p=1

What intel mobo is there that is priced similarly to the 650i?

Eventually I want to run SLI.
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