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Old 03-09-07, 01:36 PM   #1
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Default Why does ubuntu keep on crashing on me???

Hey all,

I recently decided to give Linux a go to see what all the fuss is about! I heard Ubuntu was the easiest for beginners with a history of XP use.

Well anyway, it hasnt been going too well. I downloaded the 6.10 Live CD and burnt it to a disc. I would load it and it would just hang when getting to the desktop. I tried a few suggestions from the ubuntu forums but nothing worked an I just decided it mst be a corrupt disc. I downloaded again, burnt another and same again. Exactly the same place...

Then I downloaded the alternative 6.10 release with the text based installer. This booted to the installer and I went through it as was explained on the forum sticky or help or something. Everything seemed to go well and I eventually booted up in to what seemed a perfectly good desktop. My network card had been detected automatically so the internet was all good to go through Firefox. I got an update message in the top right corner saying I needed to install 133 updates from the internet... This is where it started to go wrong.

I clicked refresh list and then install. It started downlading the files at a very impressive speed for my connection (I have a 6Mb connection but rarely see speeds over 300KB, I was downloading these updates at about 650KB). It downloaded about 50 files and then stopped, saying that there was an error and something caused the updater to close. Hmmm... a little annoying but when I clicked on update again it started off where it had finished so no big deal.

Anyway, it downloaded about another 3 files and then crashed again. Tried again, this time about 10 files and the crashed the updater... this went on and on until all the files were eventually downloaded. When it started to install these files surprise surprise some were corrupted and wouldn't work.

Since then I tried to just get on and test out the OS without worrying about the updates, but I'm just getting crashes left-right-and-centre. The CD player crashes frequently without me actually ever having opened it i.e. I get a message saying CD player has closed unexpectedly - I have never even touched it. Firefox never lasts more than a few pages before closing. The Volume Control program crashes, again without having actually changed any of the settings.

Throughout all these crashes, the actual OS hasn't crashed on me i.e. I havent had any random BSOD-equivalents or resetting. Its just the individual components of the OS that are failing.

I know there are thousands of ubuntu users out there with few problems, so I know the problem must be my end, but since this is my first forray in to Linux, I have no idea what to do about it. I was an Amiga user many years ago, and been a Windows user since 95. This is just completely different.

My rig is as sig but I have had all OCs turned off right from the start. I never install an OS with OCs and haven't put them back since completing the install.

Just for completeness' sake, I also have Windows XP MCE on this rig on another partition. GRUB seems to be handling the dual-booting fine. I'm using 1GB for swap.
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Old 03-09-07, 04:28 PM   #2
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Check the logs in /var/log/, eg the messages one. It may also be you have run out of space on a partition, run "df".
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Old 03-09-07, 06:07 PM   #3
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I was actually thinking of posting on this tonight also. With both edgy and dapper, either during install or shortly after install I get screen corruption (this is pre-nv install) and a hard lock. After that it's gone, I have to hard reboot.

Things I've tried.

Redownloaded and burned, tried different media and optical drives also. + I always burn isos at the slowest speed.

Tried safe graphics mode.

Forcing 16 bit desktop as one tip I found said the 24 bit occasionally caused trouble.

no acpi during boot

The one install I did successfully recently showed no issues in /var/log/, shortly after it went again.

Here's what's killing me, Kanotix and dream linux work exactly as advertised, but atm I'm ded set on edgy or dapper.

Any ideas would be fantastic!

Edit: This is using the rig in my sig.
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Old 03-09-07, 09:07 PM   #4
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http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthre...t+boot+live+cd

npras42, try this. Worked like a charm for me.


Edit: It quit on me again. I've been fighting with this for a couple of weeks now, done with ubuntu.

EDIT AGAIN:
ok, I didn't quit on it . After his step where you reboot and get to the login, I did the ctrl+alt+f1, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.

Downloaded the new 9755s from nvidia and installed. All appears to be well at the moment...we'll see.
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Old 03-11-07, 04:59 AM   #5
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Default Re: Why does ubuntu keep on crashing on me???

Thanks, I'll give the driver suggestion a go, even though it means yet another install...

whig: I have given 5.2GB for the Linux install with a 1GB swap.... is this not enough? I'll have a look in logs.
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Old 03-11-07, 09:46 AM   #6
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Thanks, I'll give the driver suggestion a go, even though it means yet another install...

whig: I have given 5.2GB for the Linux install with a 1GB swap.... is this not enough? I'll have a look in logs.
That should be plenty. iirc the minimum recommendation for ubuntu is 2.2 GB with a 1GB swap, so you should be set with it.
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Old 03-11-07, 08:10 PM   #7
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Is anyone able to understand this and maybe point out the cause of my numerous crashes. This happened while installing the easyubuntu package for mp3, DVD playback etc...

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Memory status: size: 54480896 vsize: 0 resident: 54480896 share: 0 rss: 18395136 rss_rlim: 0
CPU usage: start_time: 1173660479 rtime: 0 utime: 245 stime: 0 cutime:234 cstime: 0 timeout: 11 it_real_value: 0 frequency: 0

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