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Old 03-18-07, 10:00 AM   #13
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

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Well he labled it as 2MB so i don't know. The only diffrence is the Xeon can work with more processors of the same model. So with the Duo you can have 1x 6600 or with the Xeon you can have 1 x 2 3060.
No. Not with the 3xxx line. The only difference between the E6600 and the Xeon 3060 is the fact that the later is expected to be used in server and high end workstations and thus it's probably a better binned part (and it could be, and JackUp pointed out, a newer revision). But other than that, they're identical (and no, the Xeon 3xxx can't be used in dual processors boards, for that, you have to get a 5xxx).
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Old 03-18-07, 03:44 PM   #14
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

So in conclusion.... I will probably see the same results with either one as overclocking ability is completely random anyway? Is there anyway to get a Rev. B for sure or is that also pretty random?
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Old 03-18-07, 03:48 PM   #15
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

In conclusion you shuld get the Xeon because they're binned better.
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

Cool.... hopefully the Xeon does not fail me BTW... I hope then that this 2M thing is a miss label on ZipZoom's part....
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80931-3
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Old 03-18-07, 06:24 PM   #17
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

Well Intel's site lists it as 2400MHz 4MB cache.
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Old 03-20-07, 02:42 PM   #18
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

I found this.

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...c2d-e6600.html
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Old 03-21-07, 02:36 PM   #19
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

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That guy, The_Manual, is so full of it it's not even funny... Just to pick a simple example, he goes on and on by saying that the 3060 has 4MB of L3 cache, and he even links to the intal page with the specifications of all the available Xeon, and he points out that in that page it is stated, for the L2 cache, N/A, except that he can't even read a specification correctly. The N/A is referred to the L3 cache (yes, the one he is so sure it's in the 3060). The only Xeons that have a L3 cache are the 7xxx. Moreover, he states that the Xeon is engineered with SMP in mind, except that the 3060 doesn't work in a SMP configuration.

Not to mention he is only a 17 years old child (he clearly states it in post #25)...

And this quote definetely shows him understanding nothing about computers and cpus architectures : "
DEC launched the VAX-11/780 computer in 1987. It was marketed to the public as a 1MIPS computer. It was able to accomplish 1 Million Instructions Per Second (MIPS) and was therefore marketed as such (obviously).
However after extensive testing it was actually determined that the actual rate of instruction was 0.5MIPS.
VAX was able to accomplish 100% additional processing within its core and therefore its performance equated to 1MIPS.
It was capable of accomplishing a work load with fewer instructions due to its onboard "Complicated Instructions".
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Do I really have to comment on this one ?

And some more gems from this amazing guy :

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Integer calculations are raw calculations for Mathematics. These are what SuperPI uses to calculate PI to a certain number of digits. Arithmetic Processing Units also work with SuperPI to accelerate the calculations.
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- "Core 2 Duo is more based upon Floating Point Multimedia, Xeon's are more based upon Floating Point Integer"

How the hell could someone with even only one functioning neuron in his brain believe in anything this guy writes is beyond my comprehension... Bah...
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

Depending on price.... if their about the same ... go with the Xeon
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

The Xeon runs slightly slower due to ECC cache (error correct control) as such latency is higher compaired to desktop processors.
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

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The Xeon runs slightly slower due to ECC cache (error correct control) as such latency is higher compaired to desktop processors.
Wrong. Both the Core 2 Duo and the Xeon 3xxx have an ECC L2 cache. You can clearly see this fact from the Specification Update documents for both the C2D and the Xeon 3000 (I can give you the link to the intel website, if you want).

The Xeon 3000 series is identical to the C2D. And the correspondence is Xeon 3040 <-> C2D E6300, Xeon 3050 <-> C2D E6400, Xeon 3060 <-> C2D E6600, Xeon 3070 <-> C2D E6700...

The only (probable) difference is the binning of the Xeon parts.
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

All this debate makes me wonder why not a single review site or article author using test systems for benchmarks and what not are using the Xeons. They all are using the E6XXX's.


Eh, it's not an issue to me really. My 6600 will be here tomorrow.
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Default Re: Xeon 3060 vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

Meh, it's all the same. Some E6600 may OC to 4GHz or close on just water or even air, some don't. The same with the Xeon 3060. Some OC high some don't. If the Xeons are indeed binned better, it's not even noticeable.
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