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Old 04-29-07, 09:22 AM   #1225
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Well, then it would especially be not worth it, playing such a cool game with a framerate of 20

How can you play with frames in the 20's and 30's and still be immersed, or have a decent fast firefight ?
Or below 80 for that matter, it's still jerky as hell then ...

I'm a graphic ***** myself, but if there's one thing i hate with a vengeance it's waiting for frames like a retard ... (I'm NOT saying any of you are retards for the record, i just think that playing a shooter at 20 fps is somewhat idiotic)

But i'll play ... Is it really that much better looking with HDR ? Anyone have some self made screens to compare ?

I made a couple of screenshots and to be honest i don't see what the fuss is about ...
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Old 04-29-07, 09:29 AM   #1226
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Has anyone DXTweaker installed? Can you try to force 2x2 OGSSAA via DXTweaker and see if it actually works? Preferable somebody with a 8800.

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Old 04-29-07, 10:02 AM   #1227
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Well, while running to trying to find a spot that would make the dynamic lighting actually stand out against static lighting (i had to search for that, and then wait for the sun to come out from behind the clouds, which, i might add, doesnt happen all that often) i must admit that as long as you're strolling in the open without actually having to shoot, or turn, or anything, the low framerate is not as disturbing as i first thought it would be.

I wouldnt want to be caught dead when in a firefight with those frames though, i'd guess that would be a whole other story, especially as you get further in the game.

Well, the clouds sure look nicer.




But here for example, i really see no noticable difference


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Old 04-29-07, 10:05 AM   #1228
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The real difference is indoors.
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Old 04-29-07, 10:08 AM   #1229
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because the framerates in stalker are acceptable even in the 30s and 20s... but there are games that are unplayable in the 20/30s or even 40fps... good examples of these are fear/quake4 and COD.

the sacrifice is worth it
In one 8800 GTX the framerate is good at 1080p - 1920 x 1080 - , 30 - 60 fps - except in the X16 lab great hall and other few points in indoor - 25 - 30 fps . In outdoors in some few points - when vision distance is great- , the game is CPU limited, and the framerate is poor 25 fps or minus . But not in combat situations
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Old 04-29-07, 10:10 AM   #1230
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Well, then it would especially be not worth it, playing such a cool game with a framerate of 20

How can you play with frames in the 20's and 30's and still be immersed, or have a decent fast firefight ?
Or below 80 for that matter, it's still jerky as hell then ...


I'm a graphic ***** myself, but if there's one thing i hate with a vengeance it's waiting for frames like a retard ... (I'm NOT saying any of you are retards for the record, i just think that playing a shooter at 20 fps is somewhat idiotic)

But i'll play ... Is it really that much better looking with HDR ? Anyone have some self made screens to compare ?

I made a couple of screenshots and to be honest i don't see what the fuss is about ...
I guess that's the point. Normally I wouldn't play anything running in the 20-25fps range. For some very odd reason STALKER is playable at those numbers.

Don't get me wrong..it's most certainly not desirable, and those dips are very short...but there's no slide show either. The vast majority of the time, firefights and all I never notice slowdowns at all.

any other game I would be nodding my head in total agreement with you, this one though...just smoother.
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well yeah i did notice when trying out HDR that the lower frame count wasnt as annoying as i thought and that surprised me a bit indeed.

Maybe it's because the game overall is a bit slower paced ?
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Old 04-29-07, 10:51 AM   #1232
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well yeah i did notice when trying out HDR that the lower frame count wasnt as annoying as i thought and that surprised me a bit indeed.

Maybe it's because the game overall is a bit slower paced ?
It could be. I know the first thing I did when going underground the first time was GROAN! after my frames tanked.

I guess the other possibility is the xray engine is just that much more efficient. I don't know enough about it to really say.

I did try static lighting right off the bat and my results were pretty consistent with yours, I went from an average 35-40 fps to 100-120 or more. So I get about 1/3 the fps with full dynamic on also.

I still don't think it's the best looking game out there, but the textures and lighting fit the atmosphere perfectly, so thankfully I am able to play it with the majority of the eye-candy on. I just leave the grass settings turned down, and the vision and lighting distance didn't seem to have brutally noticable differences between full on and half-way down.

All the better for us SLI/Crossfire deprived folks.
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grass is also a major hog. Looks better with less of it anyway

I did realize that maybe i dont need 250 fps to play, and cranked up AA to full and res to 1800.
Not ready for HDR though
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Not rubbing it in or nothin, but god i love my GTX. Never dropped below 50 fps.
lol.... likewise. I have had dynamic lighting on the whole time with everything on full settings and its smooth as butter. The only time the FPS really dropped was the first hallway in the X16 lab... but it was still more than playable and was never choppy. The HDR makes a huge difference indoors and at night. When its night switch between HDR and static lighting and you will notice with static lighting that night is almost as bright as day With HDR its acctually dark and your flashlight is needed Also setting the gloss to 5.0 really highlights the effect of HDR inside and on objects
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I just got through playing STALKER for the third time and got the real ending this time. I'm sure glad since I'm not sure I'll play it again. It's definitely a cool game with really neat atmosphere.
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game.... not is the HDR turn off . Is all render in DX 9 turn off, !! Full dinamic lighting in game menu is = DX 9 render = turn off dinamic lighting - -, dinamic softshadows, paralax mapping , normal maps , shaders.... In outdoor the render have paralax and normal maps, and all features

Outdoor 37 mb . weather cycle and softshadows 720p video

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