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Old 03-20-07, 01:06 PM   #1
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Default Building me a new system next week. Check my shopping list

Intel E6600

Patriot eXtreme 2X1 gig PC2 8500

ASUS P5N32-E

EVGA 7600GT video card (already ordered) budget card to use until 8800's drop in price.

Corsair 520 watt PSU

Zalman CNPS9500

A few quick questions though.

For the RAM. I know that for simplicity's sake, the fact that the motherboard supports 1066 FSB, the E6600 runs at 1066 FSB and the ram runs at 1066 FSB only makes logical sense that overclocking SHOULD be fairly straight forward.

One note is that I don't plan on overclocking the cpu heavily. If I can get it running stable between 3.0 and 3.3 ghz, I'll be perfectly happy.

With that in mind, would I lose THAT much performance by stepping down to the DDR2 800 ram?

I've read good things about the patriot ram and the patriot 1066 2 gig pack has a lot of solid reviews at newegg. I notice that it's latency is 5-5-5-9 and the more expensive corsair dominator and XMS2 is 5-5-5-15. Is there any substancial difference between the two?.. or at least enough to merit the near $100 difference?

I'm asking this becuase if the performance difference between good DDR2 800 and the patriot ram I've listed isn't very much, I would gladly enjoy saving a little money and get something mabey like a pair of these. that'd be an extra $100 in my pocket to put towards an 8800 or better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231085

The RAM is the only question mark I still have so if you guys can reccomend me some good memory that won't kill my budget, that'd be great.
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Old 03-20-07, 01:11 PM   #2
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memory looks good, you should get a Xeon 3060 tho just to be cool

I would invest in a better PSU tho, something around 700W at least
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Old 03-20-07, 01:20 PM   #3
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Eh from the reviews I've read, that 520w PSU can easily handle OC'd C2D cpus, water cooling, 8800GTX's in SLI and multiple drives with no problem.

I've seen no compelling evidence to spend another $50 for 100 more watts that I don't need. I'm not water cooling anyways, there's only 1 DVD drive and 2 hard drives. :/
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Old 03-20-07, 01:21 PM   #4
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Don't get that cooler, get this one, its the best on the market:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835154001

I'd go with Crucial Ballistix RAM, as they're guaranteed to be Micron D9 chips, which are the best for overclocking.

That power supply will be fine. If you think you might need a little more power, get the 620 watt unit. Corsair HX-620.
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if you are going to run sli 8800 gtx's on a 520w you are cutting it very close. If you put a water pump and all the fans you are going to need for the radiator you are going to go over what is recommended(even tho the water cooling components don't draw much).If you are going to OC with that type of setup that PSU will not be enough. I remember seeing somewhere that the PSU would be fine for 8800 GTS sli, that would probably work
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I forgot to mention the zalman was free. I've already got it as well. Can't argue with free.

Another minor question was what the major differneces are between the ASUS I listed and this MSI version?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130081

Oh and Steve, what's the difference between these two?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148047

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146563

Besides the price? And woudl the fact that they're only DDR2 1000 vs 1066 make much of a difference?
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I forgot to mention the zalman was free. I've already got it as well. Can't argue with free.

Another minor question was what the major differneces are between the ASUS I listed and this MSI version?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130081

Oh and Steve, what's the difference between these two?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148047

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146563

Besides the price? And woudl the fact that they're only DDR2 1000 vs 1066 make much of a difference?

From what I understand, those two mobos should be about the same. I'd go with the Asus personally.

The one and only difference between those two RAMs are the Tracers have LED lights on the top that move around and it has LEDs on the bottom that light up the RAM sockets. Well and also the Tracers are all black. They look sick let me tell you. I have the Tracers and I love em! I've had them up to 1066mhz 4-4-4 2.35v with no errors. Highly recommended.
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if you are going to run sli 8800 gtx's on a 520w you are cutting it very close. If you put a water pump and all the fans you are going to need for the radiator you are going to go over what is recommended(even tho the water cooling components don't draw much).If you are going to OC with that type of setup that PSU will not be enough. I remember seeing somewhere that the PSU would be fine for 8800 GTS sli, that would probably work
I agree. I would not mess with anything under a 650 PSU.
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Wel.... for I guess $50, the extra 100 watts may not be too bad. It means I have to keep the patriot ram though (which I guess I wouldn't exactly be suffering)

After reading some reviews of the MSI and ASUS 650i boards, it seems that they're both pretty much the same. Getting the MSI board would help offset the cost of the 620watt psu so it looks like the MSI board for now.

Oh and I forgot to mention, I'm also getting a 22" LCD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824014139
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Wel.... for I guess $50, the extra 100 watts may not be too bad. It means I have to keep the patriot ram though (which I guess I wouldn't exactly be suffering)

After reading some reviews of the MSI and ASUS 650i boards, it seems that they're both pretty much the same. Getting the MSI board would help offset the cost of the 620watt psu so it looks like the MSI board for now.

Oh and I forgot to mention, I'm also getting a 22" LCD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824014139
Fastredpony, about the power supply. If you want to find a nice, cheap, 600watt unit, check out jonnygurus website. He's a guru of all things power supplies and has reviewed almost every PSU there is it seems like. Here's his site:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/

I'd also refer you to this thread about PSU's, theres a link in there to a really good thread at jonnygurus forum.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=88427

Make sure you do alot of research on the PSU you get because thats arguably the most important part of your system. I bought my PSU and kinda regret it now.
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Jonny guru gave the corsair 620w psu a 9 rating.
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Jonny guru gave the corsair 620w psu a 9 rating.
yep, its an excellent unit.
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