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Old 03-28-07, 04:06 PM   #61
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You do know that Gears of War story was debunked along time ago, right?

The PS3 has more than 256mb of RAM so that story doesn't hold. Epic even said that they'd match the Gears of War quality with UT3 on PS3. If you read over at Beyond3D you'll see that most of the guys there agree that while the PS3 is not flat out more powerful than the 360 it isn't underpowered by any means. Then take into account that top devs such as Sweeney, Carmack, Jaffe etc have also said PS3 has the edge but brought up the difficulty bit.

Before someone starts talking about how Jaffe is a Sony dev also remember Jaffe is known for giving it straight. He flat out admitted that he played Gears of War more than any PS3 game and that Sony's online sucked.
i didnt post it to say that "OMG PS3 IS T3H SUXX0RRZZ!!!11111111"

it was more of a "well Sony tells me that PS3 is the 'real' next gen" when in fact the PS3 is actually very close to being on par with the 360. will that hold true in a year or two? who knows. but atm, its definitely not the case.
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Old 03-28-07, 04:27 PM   #62
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Just clarifying because there's been so much stupidity on the boards lately....no offense to you though.

The real next gen crap is pure PR garbage. The only people who believe that stuff are the morons. There are like 3 or 4 people here that I ignore because it's obvious they bought into all the PR bull****....I'm pretty sure you know which ones those are as well.
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Old 03-28-07, 04:56 PM   #63
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I find it quite hilarious that people are ripping Sony for the PS3. It is at least as powerful as the 360, and once the programmers get the hang of it I suspect more powerful.
Anyone who actually developes games will tell you otherwise. While the CPU is more powerful, the GPU is much weaker when compared to what the 360 has.

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Sure, it may be 200 bucks more for the 60GB version, but it has a Blu Ray player built in.
I don't want a BR or HD-DVD player right now, nor do I care about the 360's DVD playback. I want a console to play video games.

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Then, it has a measly 20GB hard drive.
PS3 games install, 360 games do not. The PS3 will run out of space before a 360 playing the same multi-platform games.

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So, they are now releasing a 360Ultra (Nvidia....you can sue)
360 Elite, not Ultra. Also, it's limited edition, but once sold out, the same HDMI port and 120GB HDS goes into the white case and takes over as the Premium at $400. Nice try.
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I want a console to play video games.
Holy **** there's a novel idea.
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Holy **** there's a novel idea.
Kinda like having a phone that just, you know, makes calls.
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PS3 games install, 360 games do not. The PS3 will run out of space before a 360 playing the same multi-platform games.
PS3 Game install is optional. You can refuse to install the data, load times will be longer but thats the choice you make.
 
Old 03-28-07, 05:18 PM   #67
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this thread makes my face hurt.
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Old 03-28-07, 05:23 PM   #68
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360 Elite, not Ultra. Also, it's limited edition, but once sold out, the same HDMI port and 120GB HDS goes into the white case and takes over as the Premium at $400. Nice try.
Where did you get your info on the HDMI and 120Gb HD being eventually sold for $400? The only info on post Elite plans I've seen has been at 1up stating that they're not altering the Premium Box. "Elite SKU is not being released to replace the Premium"

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The Elite SKU is not being released to replace the Premium (or the Core) versions of the console: "The Elite is not our new default SKU. The SKU that we still think is the sweet spot is the existing 20 gigabyte unit." Penello said. "We've got a unit for people that is more entry level. We're not going to start releasing 25 gigabyte downloads."
And I still haven't seen anyone address the original topic here. To quote my own post: "On the 360, to get the same features as a stock PS3 (HDMI, HD Video Playback) it costs a minimum of $680. Except for your extra cash you get inferior hardware to the PS3. Does anyone have anything that refutes those last two sentances?"

On ViN86's PS3<X360 Sig Link: The original comparison that the post is referencing compares the theoretical Gflop power of the Xenon with the Benchmarked Gflop capability of the Cell (not a fair comparison as the Cell has a 24% gap between theoretical and actual Gflop performance as I'd assume the Xenon has a similar gap). Even still the two CPUs have very close flop capability in that comparison ~ 115Gflops, the only thing that can be said against the PS3 OS is that it has a fat RAM footprint but as was true with the PSP and is still true with the PS3 that footprint is a worst case scenerio and will shrink with each firmware update, its already shrank by 8Mb with the last update as has been reported by the users playing with linux on PS3 looking at RAM available to them.
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Old 03-28-07, 05:23 PM   #69
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that's where you're wrong. Gaming composes 60% of NicoruleZ's life. The other 30% being sleep, 5% to eating, and another 5% to masturbation.
Wrong again nimrod, I work 80% of the time and maybe game 2% of the day if that. Usually 30 minutes or so if I am able. The other time is spent taking care of patients; I am a physician. Thus, I game and enjoy AV equipment because I find it fun and I fortunately have the means. If Vin's response is completely correct than it goes against what countless others on the internet have said. It is interesting that it comes from Rage3d which happens to support AMD/ATI which is the guts of the 360. I don't dislike the 360; I enjoy mine greatly. I just find it absurd that you idiots continue to bash the PS3 b/c it is the leader in features. Last I checked, I would want a Lexus over a Hyundai or Escort. Same with the PS3. BTW, I do hate the Wii; total waste of time and money. If you read my original post, I said the PS3 and XB360 were likely equal in power. I just like the implementation that SOny bought to the table. Obviously, it has its shortcomings as do all consoles. The PC still reigns supreme but you pay for the power.
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Wrong again nimrod, I work 80% of the time and maybe game 2% of the day if that. Usually 30 minutes or so if I am able. The other time is spent taking care of patients; I am a physician. Thus, I game and enjoy AV equipment because I find it fun and I fortunately have the means. If Vin's response is completely correct than it goes against what countless others on the internet have said. It is interesting that it comes from Rage3d which happens to support AMD/ATI which is the guts of the 360. I don't dislike the 360; I enjoy mine greatly. I just find it absurd that you idiots continue to bash the PS3 b/c it is the leader in features. Last I checked, I would want a Lexus over a Hyundai or Escort. Same with the PS3. BTW, I do hate the Wii; total waste of time and money. If you read my original post, I said the PS3 and XB360 were likely equal in power. I just like the implementation that SOny bought to the table. Obviously, it has its shortcomings as do all consoles. The PC still reigns supreme but you pay for the power.
i love how cause it's linked in my sig, then it's from my mouth.
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Old 03-28-07, 07:26 PM   #71
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i love how cause it's linked in my sig, then it's from my mouth.
Testy testy. I should have stated Vin's link...sorry for the egregious oversight. Seriously, if Gods of War were impossible on the PS3 then any UT3 game would be as well. It is based off of that engine. That is pure mularchy. UT3 is coming out for the PS3. Will it or the 360 version be superior; I don't know. Surprisingly, neither do you. All I know is that I read the reviews and when COD3 was rated higher for the 360 so I got that version. I thought NBA Homecourt looked better for the PS3. I don't have a particular preference, although I congratulate Sony on making a true home entertainment device. The Blu Ray player in the PS3 is one of the best on the market and the one out right at the moment with HDMI 1.3; maybe the Pioneer Elite has it too but it is 1500 bucks retail. My point is that you guys bash the console without any good reason. The 360 sucked also when it first came out. As I recall, its best game was COD2 and PGR. Sound familiar with Resistance and RR7. Regardless, you guys (especially the puerile infant Zelda) can wax all you want about NPD data and theoretical numbers, but the fruit will be in the pudding. Give it a year and if the PS3 flops at least I have a hell of a Blu Ray player. If It succeeds as I suspect (and most every critical unbiased analyst surmises) it will, it is a relatively good investment for 600 dollars. Peace and sorry to ruffle any feathers. I like the PS3 and 360. I know it ticks off fanbois like Zelda when I demean the Wii...but come on..the name...the hardware...enough said.
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lol nah im not testy.
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