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Old 04-01-07, 10:11 AM   #1
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Default NVRM Xid messages, hangs, graphics corruption with Geforce 6200 on AMD64

Hi all,

I have a PCI express Geforce 6200TC on an amd64 machine. Since upgrading from Ubuntu dapper (nvidia driver 8776 on kernel 2.6.15) to feisty (nvidia driver 9775 on 2.6.20), I've been seeing a number of unfortunate side-effects:

- machine randomly hangs/freezes/pauses for a few seconds at a time, usually accompanied by an NVRM: Xid message in dmesg and/or a NVIDIA(0): WAIT message in Xorg.log.

- several forms of display corruption, sometimes temporary that goes away by itself a couple of seconds, sometimes lasting until the area of the screen in question gets redrawn. Effects include - screen appears "shifted" to the side for a while; and areas of the screen turning black (or sometimes funny patterns) for no apparent reason

- after the first time the machine freezes, XV acceleration stops working until X is restarted, which is a bummer since I'm using this machine for watching TV

I've tried a number of 'fixes' I've seen mentioned elsewhere, including: setting NvAGP to 0, setting UseEvents to true or false, kernel options "acpi=off", "noapic", "nolapic", "notsc", "pci=noacpi" (individually and in various combinations), and upgrading to the latest motherboard BIOS version. I also tried re-seating the graphics card a couple of times, just in case it was a hardware issue...

For the moment I'm using the nv driver, which works perfectly but is slow as a wet week.

Bug report log file attached.

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Old 04-01-07, 11:08 AM   #2
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Default Re: NVRM Xid messages, hangs, graphics corruption with Geforce 6200 on AMD64

Hi,

I had some Xids and some of your problems in the last couple of days. Font corruption, black video windows, Xids on switching from X to console and vice versa.

I solved all of them.

The solution? I went into the bios and set all the RAM timings to 'auto'. Bingo! Xids went away and never came back.
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Old 04-01-07, 03:15 PM   #3
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RAM timings (and CPU, PCIe and HT timings) are all set to auto in the BIOS and look "sensible".

I'm pretty sure this is a software issue, since it only started when I upgraded to the newer kernel and nvidia drivers.
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Old 04-01-07, 06:09 PM   #4
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Default Re: NVRM Xid messages, hangs, graphics corruption with Geforce 6200 on AMD64

Have you tried using a 'vanilla' kernel.org kernel?

If you can reproduce the problem with a plain kernel, it would exclude bad ubuntu patches as a source of the problem.
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Old 04-02-07, 08:36 AM   #5
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Default Re: NVRM Xid messages, hangs, graphics corruption with Geforce 6200 on AMD64

I get the same symptoms on 2.6.20.4 from kernel.org.
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Old 12-09-07, 07:12 PM   #6
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Default Re: NVRM Xid messages, hangs, graphics corruption with Geforce 6200 on AMD64

I have exactly the same problems running AMD64 on kernel 2.6.23-r3 and driver version 100.14.19 with a 7300LE pci-express card.
It is very very annoying, since I do a lot of opengl/sdl programming on this computer.
It's almost unusable as it is now. It locks up or freezes at least 25-30% of the times when I launch an opengl application. I get the same error messages as 'cpatrick'.

I've tried most of the "tricks" without success. Is there a solution to this problem or do I have to sell this card and switch to ATI?
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Old 12-10-07, 02:15 AM   #7
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Default Re: NVRM Xid messages, hangs, graphics corruption with Geforce 6200 on AMD64

Who known when NVIDIA fix this BUG?
On 'nv' is good, but I need my OpenGL apps!
I hope NVIDIA give me present on X-mass and fix this bug in future drivers release :-)

/me NVIDIA Geforce 7300LE user, but begin looks into ATI side :-(
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Old 12-10-07, 04:04 AM   #8
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>Who known when NVIDIA fix this BUG?

this is not 'this' bug. Xids can be triggered by a lot of different causes.

Like a weak PSU. System bios bugs. Video bios bugs. Unclean signaling. Bad Card. Overheating.

If you get lots of Xids, I would replace the card.
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Old 12-10-07, 12:39 PM   #9
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Quote:
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>Who known when NVIDIA fix this BUG?

this is not 'this' bug. Xids can be triggered by a lot of different causes.

Like a weak PSU. System bios bugs. Video bios bugs. Unclean signaling. Bad Card. Overheating.

If you get lots of Xids, I would replace the card.
But I haven't Xids message and any message from X11 or kernel about my video adapter or something like this. I have directly lockups, no logs, no messages ;-(

Code:
lexx-1:~ # cat /var/log/messages | grep -i nvrm
Dec  2 13:57:09 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  169.04  Wed Nov 14 16:44:14 PST 2007
Dec  2 14:00:50 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  169.04  Wed Nov 14 16:44:14 PST 2007
Dec  5 20:24:36 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  169.04  Wed Nov 14 16:44:14 PST 2007
Dec  5 20:29:15 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  169.04  Wed Nov 14 16:44:14 PST 2007
Dec  6 17:48:51 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9755  Mon Feb 26 23:21:15 PST 2007
Dec  8 03:00:37 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9755  Mon Feb 26 23:21:15 PST 2007
Dec  8 03:03:47 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9755  Mon Feb 26 23:21:15 PST 2007
Dec  8 17:17:25 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9755  Mon Feb 26 23:21:15 PST 2007
Dec  8 17:19:26 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  1.0-9755  Mon Feb 26 23:21:15 PST 2007
Dec  9 19:16:19 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  100.14.23  Thu Oct  4 10:16:34 PDT 2007
Dec  9 19:19:06 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  100.14.23  Thu Oct  4 10:16:34 PDT 2007
Dec 10 17:45:27 lexx-1 kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  169.04  Wed Nov 14 16:44:14 PST 2007
You can see, trouble really present for me :-(

Now I try this:
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lexx-1:~ # dmesg | grep -i "kernel command line"
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=Linux_SMP ro root=/dev/sda5 resume=/dev/sda1 splash=silent idle=poll pci=nommconfig showopts
I hope it's workaround for me...
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Default Re: NVRM Xid messages, hangs, graphics corruption with Geforce 6200 on AMD64

Here comes an update from me...

I just installed the new beta drivers (100.14.23) and this seems to work just fine!
I'll let you know if there are any problems, but these new drivers looks promising.
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Update:
The new driver didn't help me at all unfortunately...
All problems still exists.
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I'm having similar issues that have been driving me crazy.

This is on a Dell Dimension 5150, dual-core P4 2.4 GHz, 3 GB of RAM, I had a 6800GTS card (PCIE) in the machine that was having the pauses and Xid messages as you described, plus messages about invalid context attempting to map some address (*always* the same address, too.) Usually the game (WoW) would keep going anyway, although eventually I'd start seeing corrupted textures here and there, and if I kept playing it would eventually lock up my video. I say my video because the sound kept going and the machine was running, but the X server and the display were totally frozen and unresponsive, requiring a hard reset.

At first I thought that it was just another 100.14.19 driver bug (I was already having the XV problems) so I downgraded to 96.43, which seemed to lessen the problem but not by much.
Thinking my poor Dimension PS was failing or just not beefy enough I put in an Antec 430W supply. Nothing changed, so I decided to upgrade from 32-bit Fedora 8 to 64-bit, thinking maybe, just maybe, it was a problem with me having so much RAM and a 64-bit driver would fix it. At first it seemed to, but it wasn't long before it started up again. So I Iived with it, hoping the new beta drivers would fix it eventually.

That is, until the snow started. By that I mean the random colored dots that started sprouting up all over both my monitors, again only when I tried to use WoW. The dots would randomly change positions anytime any part of the display was updated. To clear them up would require a reboot; sometimes multiple reboots.

At this point I gave in and tried the beta drivers. That's when it got really freaky. The snow came back with a vengeance, filling both screens like a blizzard, to the point I could barely read anything. Thinking my card was finally dying for good I ran out and grabbed a new BFG 8400GS, also PCIE. The "invalid context" messages are gone now, but I still get the Xid messages every couple of days and have to reboot because WoW will freeze the video or cause the snow to start when I try to start it up.

Interestingly, the 8400's snow behaves a bit differently. When it starts up, I got the random colored bits strewn across both monitors, but it also totally scrambles any window that tries to scroll its contents. For example if I try to scroll down a web page the content pane of Firefox will get scrambled, although the rest of the window will look fine.

Now I'm sure everyone reading this is going to say "you must have bad hardware" but the strange thing is this machine is showing NO other symptoms. I use this box for my development work and I also do my transcodes of my MythTV HD recordings on this box (two at a time...one for each CPU core) and never had any segfaults, lockups, kernel messages, corrupted files or other weirdness even when the box is 100% maxed out. As long as I don't open up WoW my video seems to work indefinitely as well.

I know this started *roughly* around the time I went from 1 to 3 GB of RAM, but I don't remember the timing. I do not believe the RAM to be bad, since the problems are all specifically with video (WoW never actually crashes.) I have however tried booting with "mem=1G" on the command line, to see if that made any difference, which it didn't. I have yet to try physically yanking out any memory, since it doesn't appear bad.

Did my computer get possessed perhaps?
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