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Old 04-15-07, 09:36 AM   #13
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You know ATI is haveing trouble getting the R600 to be as fast as the 8800GTX and looking at some of the pictures I seen on some website with the cooler looking like a jet blower,the chip runs plenty hot at frequncies to get it to run at the performance they want,but they could have been fake but I doubt it since they would already have it out if it was fast enough.I just hope they can get something out before long ,I hate seeing nvidia haveing no competition because you know the prices will just go up with no competition,but if they come out with 256bit midrange and lower range cards they should be back in it since nvidia has 128bit and the 7900gt is faster in most games.
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Old 04-15-07, 09:37 AM   #14
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If you watched the latest cyrsis interview you'd know that crysis is only in alpha stage now, theres no way its running at 50fps at 1600res and 4x aa.
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Old 04-15-07, 10:39 AM   #15
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Has there really been a "recent" interview, though? So many people have been posting videos and such they thought were recent but were from all the way back in January.

And I've also seen the team contradict themselves on at least one occasion in regards to when the game would be ready. The last one I read said they were through Alpha already and were beta testing the game. Do you have a link?
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Old 04-15-07, 12:41 PM   #16
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Supposedly the Crysis demo being shown at GDC 2006 got leaked, so that might explain where they got it.
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Old 04-15-07, 01:23 PM   #17
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I don't know if the benchmarks are legit, but think about all of the things they use to make graphichs worse to gain performance, and also a lot of DX10 has code that's faster than DX9.

Finally, think about Tomb Raider AOD (one of the 1st DX9 titles), it came out 9-10 mos. after the 9700 Pro, and it ran no less than 40 fps on average, with everything you could throw at it, save maybe resolutions greater than 1280x1024.

Think about how well Halo 1 ran on the 9700 Pro.

The 512 MB is going to be a serious handicap though.
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Old 04-25-07, 02:35 PM   #18
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I still say that if the 2900XT runs neck and neck with the 8800GTX in games and benchmarks,while costing over 100$ less,since it seems ATI will release that particular version at 399$ MSRP,then i can't really see how anyone can call that card a failure,as it's priced to compete with the 8800GTS version,yet will easily beat it,and even the 8800GTX is suddenly a much less atractive buy from a performance/price perspective....


Good thing about this is that at the very least,it'll force Nvidia to sell both the 8800GTS and the 8800GTX cards quite a bit cheaper once the 2900XT is out,with the 320 MB 8800 card getting down right ridiculous in terms of price...


Now i'm curious about the top of the line beast,the 2900 XTX with that 1 gig of ram and even higher clocks,as one of the Daily tech staff did run benchmarks with that particular version,and even ran overclocking tests,wich when combined with a QX6700 CPU,kicked out a rather impressive 14 500 3D mark score...


It also discredits what fudzilla and the enquirer have been stating that the XTX version is only going to be released in Q3 and in very limited numbers,since this guy is already playing with one right now....
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Old 04-25-07, 02:48 PM   #19
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Here's the 2900 XT numbers from Daily tech once the card is overclocked....Shows at least the overclocking potential and scores,even though it's only 3Dmark,and compares those with an overclocked 8800GTX running at 650 core and nearly 2 ghz,wich seems to be what the 8800 ultra will be once it's released shortly.....Seems we got ourselves a good old fashioned race on our hands,and the 399$ price for a 2900XT that can kick out numbers like that is truly impressive,and puts to shame an 8800 GTS...


http://www.dailytech.com/Overclockin...rticle7044.htm


Thought these scores were actually from the XTX version initially,but it turns out that sven hasn't posted them yet,but is running an XTX ATM....Can't wait to see the scores out of that beast
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They didn't even mention the drivers being used or operating system. Was it 32 bit or 64? Oh well. We'll know in due time. No worries mate.
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Old 04-25-07, 03:54 PM   #21
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They didn't even mention the drivers being used or operating system. Was it 32 bit or 64? Oh well. We'll know in due time. No worries mate.

True,that would be nice to know,but given that's it's not really an official review,guess we can let it slide for the time being....


I am really tempted by the 2900XT though,given it's suggested retail price,to the point that i wouldn't even care for the XTX version,as it's main advantage is the extra ram,but games using 1 gig of ram aren't coming out anytime soon,and by the time they do,we'll have even faster cards to pick from,so it's a moot point....

So likely paying 150~200$ more for that extra ram and perhaps another 50~75mhz on the core with the XTX version,doesn't seem worth it,as with regards to the core itself,there's no difference in terms of features,unlike what happened with the 8800GTS vs the GTX version(disabled shaders,narrower bus for the GTS)...
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