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Old 04-18-07, 10:34 AM   #13
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Yeh, I already picked up the computer, I've been using it for the last few days.
Can you return it? Most stores allow you to return within 30 days
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Old 04-18-07, 10:39 AM   #14
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I love screwin over those who try to screw over people who aren't tech savvy.
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Old 04-18-07, 10:43 AM   #15
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Can you return it? Most stores allow you to return within 30 days
Actually I called him this morning about the harddrive because I wanted to change it to a bigger one, but he wants to charge me a 25% restocking fee on the drive. I figure I'll just keep it and later when I need a bigger one I'll buy one then, from someone else of course.

On the invoice it says the same, "A 25% restocking fee will apply to all parts returned/exchanged"
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Old 04-18-07, 10:54 AM   #16
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Actually I called him this morning about the harddrive because I wanted to change it to a bigger one, but he wants to charge me a 25% restocking fee on the drive. I figure I'll just keep it and later when I need a bigger one I'll buy one then, from someone else of course.

On the invoice it says the same, "A 25% restocking fee will apply to all parts returned/exchanged"
Wow. I've heard of people charging 15%, but never 25%. As I said before: Let this be a lesson you will never forget.
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Old 04-18-07, 10:56 AM   #17
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You can build that exact same computer buying all the parts from newegg for about $900. Sorry dude, you got ripped off. I would at the very least call the guy back and tell him you know you got ripped off and that you're gonna let everyone you know in on the fact that he's a con-artist.
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Old 04-18-07, 11:00 AM   #18
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I would also call the better business bureau and file a complaint. This guy knew he overcharged you on hardware that was a little dated.

If you wanted to, I would call him back and threaten him with filing a complaint with the BBB if he did not give you back your money.
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Old 04-18-07, 11:08 AM   #19
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The prices are probably about right for a small pc shop, but I definetly would not have built a pc from one. They need to have higher markups than a big store because they don't sell nearly as much volume.

The biggest thing is that you should have popped the question before you bought it. A little research at bestbuy or staples at a pre-built computer, or even Dell.com would have shown you that you might want to ask a few more questions first.

I couldn't get it exactly the same because they don't offer an 8800GTS, but with the GTX in the cart I'm about 150 over what you paid.

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That a Dell pc that I just threw together. Comes out to $1,933. If I just bought the 8800GTX seperate from newegg.com or tigerdirect.com, I could build a pc for the same price as yours. The 8800gtx is quite a bit faster than a 8800gts 320. It is currently the fastest graphics card on the market.

The processor is a lot faster even though it is running at a slower speed. Mhz isn't everything anymore, so it is important to look at benchmarks of different processors.

Vista Home Premium would probably have cost $200 to buy from the computer place, so that is a bonus here.

The hard drive is 4 times the size of the one that you purchased.

I wouldn't say that you did horrible, but there are definitely some places where it could be improved for the same price.
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Old 04-18-07, 11:16 AM   #20
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Yeah $900 is just insane though. I can remember looking at a 3yr old PIII machine at my local ISP charging 2k+ for it when I had a better system that cost me <1k @ home. Post up his business information please so no one here deals with him!

I agree with DDOC, file a complaint w/BBB. 25% restock is stupid. He's probably already spent the money and is trying to keep you from selling back to him. Of course eating the 25% on the whole system you could still get a pretty good machine for ~1300. Heh.

Btw any chance you are from Canada or Australia?
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Old 04-18-07, 11:18 AM   #21
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For comparisons sake off new egg.
Same processor is $90
Same video card is $304
I will assume you have the P5B vanilla going by what he did. $122

Those three components alone is $551 cheaper. Not including the rest of your system.

I understand small shops are a little more pricey but that is just ridiculous. If I where you, I would do everything I could to get a refund. This guy blatantly ripped you off. And probably has ripped off hundreds of other people too.

The other thing you need to watch out for is old stock. Sometimes they purchase products at a high price, but then there is a price drop before it sells. I remember one comp store here was selling the amd fx-57 for over $1000 when it was worth I think $300 tops.
Right now they have the FX-62 for $1,036.00 (Canadian) and the store 20 mins away has it for $648.
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Old 04-18-07, 11:21 AM   #22
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Wow, I think you got ripped on that one.

An $1800 PC with no monitor or peripherals should be top of the line with at least a single 8800GTX and a high end Core 2 duo (maybe even a quad). That P4 has no business being in a gaming rig. They aren't crap, but if you specifically asked or a gaming system he should never have even considered a Pentium 4 of any kind, let alone one that slow.

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At newegg I just built a PC with the following specs:
Asus P5B motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (2.13Ghz... and probably twice as fast as the P4 in some cases)
2Gb G.Skill PC-6400 DDR2
eVGA Geforce 8800GTX 768Mb
Vista Home Premium 32bit
OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU
Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty
2 Lite-On 20x DVD burners
Seagate 7200.10 320Gb SATA hard drive
Antec P180B case

... for $1700 shipped

You should definitely contact this person and try to get a refund. Seriously. If you asked him to give you something that'd last you a while for $1800, he took advantage of you. You'll be lucky to have current games run well with that CPU, the video card is fast but doesn't have much memory, which seriously limits its longevity... and don't get me started on the 80gig hard drive. The price difference between an 80gig and a 320gig is maybe $30. He had no business giving you one that small.
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For comparisons sake off new egg.
Same processor is $90
Same video card is $304
I will assume you have the P5B vanilla going by what he did. $122

Those three components alone is $551 cheaper. Not including the rest of your system.

I understand small shops are a little more pricey but that is just ridiculous. If I where you, I would do everything I could to get a refund. This guy blatantly ripped you off. And probably has ripped off hundreds of other people too.

The other thing you need to watch out for is old stock. Sometimes they purchase products at a high price, but then there is a price drop before it sells. I remember one comp store here was selling the amd fx-57 for over $1000 when it was worth I think $300 tops.
Right now they have the FX-62 for $1,036.00 (Canadian) and the store 20 mins away has it for $648.
That's what I'm guessing is with the P4. When the store owner bought a bunch of processors probably a year ago, he probably paid $150 - $200 himself for them. So put on a markup, and $279 isn't that far out of the question.

The only part that I can't even figure out why it is so expensive is the graphics card.

The other big question is did they assemble it for you, or did you have to build it? That's another reason why stuff would cost more if someone built the whole thing for you.
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Old 04-18-07, 11:45 AM   #24
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Actually I called him this morning about the harddrive because I wanted to change it to a bigger one, but he wants to charge me a 25% restocking fee on the drive. I figure I'll just keep it and later when I need a bigger one I'll buy one then, from someone else of course.

On the invoice it says the same, "A 25% restocking fee will apply to all parts returned/exchanged"
I guess if you return your PC, take the 25% loss and buy a PC with the price we recommand, you may still end up with a much much faster PC with less price! This is just my thought ...... because he overcharged you more than 25%..... Quote:
"For comparisons sake off new egg.
Same processor is $90
Same video card is $304
I will assume you have the P5B vanilla going by what he did. $122

Those three components alone is $551 cheaper. Not including the rest of your system."
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