Go Back   nV News Forums > Hardware Forums > CPUs, Motherboards And Memory

Newegg Daily Deals

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-19-02, 02:18 PM   #1
druga runda
Zeus Gromovnik
 
druga runda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Gerbilizator
Posts: 374
Default AMD vs Intel

Whooo????

at Extremetech... in R9700 review.

The guy there seems to have sold his sould to Intel , but the benchmarks give you totally different story that he himself in the comments below makes.

First of all the guy uses the latest and meanest Intel setup.
PIV 2.53, 1066RDram. vs lowly 2000+AMD xp with 333DDR.

And guess what suprised me!?! AMd BEATS PIV in many benchmarks with FSAA on. Yes correct BEATS the PIV system, comparing GF4 or R9700.

The biggest beating is in Nature test

R300 4xFSAA 1024*768
AMD = 74.5 FPS
Intel = 53.2 FPS

Other than that the scores are pretty much the same in that test despite Intels huge mhz/FSB etc overall advantage.

I was thinking maybe this is just misprinted graph, but than go to first page and looked at 3D Mark test once again

R300 AMD 1024*768 4xAA
AMD 11315
Intel 10748

add 8*AF
AMD 9236
Intel 8932

do 1600 x 1200 with 4xAA & 8*AF
AMD 5454
Intel 4959

And in genereal when you crank up the settings AMD gets either close or beats PIV.

I for one did not expect that. It seems to me that PIV has the most trouble with AA, as if it prediction unit cannot handle the data that well.

Interesting benchies indeed. (apart form Extremetech dully, saying how Intel in faster, pointing out to lowest resolutions/games that favour Intel despite Intels hughe mhz/fsb advantage and higher cost, and the system not even being the best from AMD)
This fact that AMD managed to squeeze more out when it mattered most is indeed suprising.
druga runda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-02, 06:26 PM   #2
Kruno
TypeDef's assistant
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,641
Send a message via ICQ to Kruno Send a message via AIM to Kruno
Default

Bad driver optimisations for Intel
__________________
"Never before has any voice dared to utter the words of that tongue in Imladris, Mr. Anderson" - Elrond LOTR
Kruno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-02, 07:46 PM   #3
StealthHawk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: AMD vs Intel

Quote:
Originally posted by druga runda
I for one did not expect that. It seems to me that PIV has the most trouble with AA, as if it prediction unit cannot handle the data that well.
err, FSAA is done in hardware on the video card
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-02, 10:37 PM   #4
Matthyahuw
Registered User
 
Matthyahuw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: AZ
Posts: 919
Send a message via ICQ to Matthyahuw Send a message via AIM to Matthyahuw Send a message via Yahoo to Matthyahuw
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Bad driver optimisations for Intel
Kind of the opposite of what happend with the R8500, when it 1st came out, it barely even ran on AMD systems...
__________________
Shalom!
Matthyahuw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-02, 12:06 AM   #5
Kruno
TypeDef's assistant
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,641
Send a message via ICQ to Kruno Send a message via AIM to Kruno
Default

ROTFLMAO!
Ati better have their drivers optimised for both cpu's to make sure they get a great market share.

I might jsut add I have seen some benchmarks of the R300 showing the opposite as well, running better on Intel P4's than AMD Athlon XP's.
All I have to say is: Bulldust. Either the reviewers are doing something or Ati are playing around with drivers again.
__________________
"Never before has any voice dared to utter the words of that tongue in Imladris, Mr. Anderson" - Elrond LOTR
Kruno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-02, 03:29 AM   #6
druga runda
Zeus Gromovnik
 
druga runda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Gerbilizator
Posts: 374
Default Re: Re: AMD vs Intel

Quote:
Originally posted by StealthHawk


err, FSAA is done in hardware on the video card
That is what all they say, but there seems to be consistency in his review, who knows what data goes trough the CPU - as something definitley slows PIV.

Plus looking at Hardocp, 1800+ Atholon is either the same, or beats PIV 2.53 a little when the resolution and settings go up.

What was the review that went the other way around?
druga runda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-02, 04:06 AM   #7
Kruno
TypeDef's assistant
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,641
Send a message via ICQ to Kruno Send a message via AIM to Kruno
Default

Dunno now. Me thinks somewhere on Inquirer.
__________________
"Never before has any voice dared to utter the words of that tongue in Imladris, Mr. Anderson" - Elrond LOTR
Kruno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-02, 01:09 PM   #8
SavagePaladin
info*****
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,395
Default

Comparison benchmarks can be kind of silly, since theres no way to get a p4 and AMD system with the same parts except the processor+RAM setup...
and AMD definately has better floating point, from what I know
SavagePaladin is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Maintain Your Privacy by Manually Accepting and Rejecting "Cookies" (nV News) MikeC Open Forum 2 02-02-13 07:15 PM
CPU Charts 2012: 86 Processors From AMD And Intel, Tested News Archived News Items 0 12-24-12 07:10 AM
Why even Intel fans want a stronger showing from AMD News Archived News Items 0 10-03-12 02:40 PM
DOE Doles Out Cash to AMD, Whamcloud for Exascale Research News Archived News Items 0 07-12-12 07:50 PM
AMD Gooses the Clocks on 'Bulldozer' Opterons News Archived News Items 0 06-04-12 02:24 PM

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2014, nV News.