VIA's KT400...

08-14-02, 12:20 AM

will support DDR400

this has been confirmed in a preview done at Tom's.

PCarr78 · 08-14-02, 12:24 AM

Who cares?

Hammer is coming soon.

08-14-02, 01:31 AM

there was a post in this forum saying that it wouldn't.

don't count your Hammers before they're hatched, err built.

TheOneKEA · 08-15-02, 07:15 AM

StealthHawk: Read about Abit's KD7-RAID; it has the KT400 chipset and it says right on the page: Supports 2GB registered DDR333/400 SDRAM.

**MUYA** · 08-15-02, 09:02 AM

But are these kt400 mobos avialable? Or rather how soon? I would like one just coz of the ddr 400 and 8X AGP

i know hammer is coming in q4 this year but NV30 which is also coming q4 apparently, with a nv30 you will probably not need a hammer to get 60+ fps in doom3 at 1024 by 768 and max fsaa and aniso! hammers will probably be priced out of the casual upgraders so, amd thoroughbreds and nv30 for me, with of course a kt400 mobo!

MUYA

volt · 08-15-02, 12:13 PM

I don't know about you guys, but my next system will be based on nForce2 (hopefully without onboard VGA), Hammer at 2.6 GHz (if http://www.theinquirer.net/ is correct which I doubt) and NV30.

netviper13 · 08-15-02, 12:56 PM

Although it might not be called nForce2, because they will have to completely change the motherboard for the Hammer chips.

08-15-02, 08:48 PM

Hammer isn't coming out this year. it was originally hoped by AMD that very small shipments in the thousands would be available in December. but that isn't the case now.

intercede007 · 08-16-02, 01:21 AM

The KT400 chipset is being unveiled at QuakeCon thats happening this weekend. VIA is one of the events sponsors. There is also rumors that the impending Barton core will appear as an XP 2800+ part with a 333mhz FSB. It will be interesting to see if the motherboard has any sort of official support for that kind of FSB speed. One can only hope. Personally, I'm kind of skeptical about the integrated northbridge on the Hammer. AMD has already had to go back to the drawing boards on it once. I'd be VERY interested in a 333MHZ XP system, considering that the Bartons are also going to have 512K of L2 cache. I could definatly hop onto that bandwagon until a year from now, when I have a little more confidence in the Hammer, or if Intel's Prescott core blows it out of the water. Hmm..kind of sounds like the R300, NV30 quandry all over again. Go with the goods now, or wait and see how it stacks up later? My $.02..cept for the K400 bit..thats fact

08-16-02, 06:04 AM

KT400 supports 166FSB, as do many KT333 mobos.

TheOneKEA · 08-16-02, 07:56 AM

Yes, but the KT333 did not officially support a 166MHz clock for the CPU FSB. It only supported 166MHz for the memory FSB. The KT400 is supposed to have official support for a 166MHz FSB clock for the CPU.

FastM · 08-16-02, 09:14 AM

Ya know i totaly agree with intercede007, a couple months ago the only upgrade i was considering was the NV30 and the Hammer, But i think AMD is going to be a little late with the Hammer series and the speed increase from moving up to a 333Mhz FSB should be pretty impressive.

08-14-02, 12:20 AM	#1
StealthHawk Guest Posts: n/a	VIA's KT400... will support DDR400 this has been confirmed in a preview done at Tom's.

08-15-02, 09:02 AM	#5
MUYA Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 6,774	But are these kt400 mobos avialable? Or rather how soon? I would like one just coz of the ddr 400 and 8X AGP i know hammer is coming in q4 this year but NV30 which is also coming q4 apparently, with a nv30 you will probably not need a hammer to get 60+ fps in doom3 at 1024 by 768 and max fsaa and aniso! hammers will probably be priced out of the casual upgraders so, amd thoroughbreds and nv30 for me, with of course a kt400 mobo! MUYA __________________ I5-2500k@4.7GHz - MSI Z77A-GD65 - 4GB X2 A-DATA DDR3 1600 - Corsair H100 - Antec Quatro 850W Gigabyte Windforce X3 GTX 680 OC - Dell 24" IPS Intel 320 300 GB SSD - 1 TB Hitachi HDD - 2x 250 GB WD HDD Corsair K90 - Corsair Venegance 2000 Headset - Razer Naga Epic Corsair 600T Case

08-15-02, 12:13 PM	#6
volt Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: /dev/null Posts: 1,556	I don't know about you guys, but my next system will be based on nForce2 (hopefully without onboard VGA), Hammer at 2.6 GHz (if http://www.theinquirer.net/ is correct which I doubt) and NV30. __________________ [b]Optimization guidelines by Koji Ashida of NVIDIA:[/b][list][]Use fx12 instructions whenever possible[]Use lowest pixel shader version[/list][url=http://developer.nvidia.com/docs/IO/10878/ChinaJoy2004_OptimizationAndTools.pdf]source[/url] [size=1]The politics are invading the technology. We don't really like to mess with politics because that kind of adversarial relationship has nothing to do with pure technical operations and the technical specifications of what we like to play with, the hardware![/size]

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08-14-02, 12:24 AM	#2
PCarr78 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 505	Who cares? Hammer is coming soon.

08-14-02, 01:31 AM	#3
StealthHawk Guest Posts: n/a	there was a post in this forum saying that it wouldn't. don't count your Hammers before they're hatched, err built.

08-15-02, 07:15 AM	#4
TheOneKEA Fifteen-K Saiyan Bastard Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere in England, waiting for ROTK and drooling over the A64 3000+ Posts: 417	StealthHawk: Read about Abit's KD7-RAID; it has the KT400 chipset and it says right on the page: Supports 2GB registered DDR333/400 SDRAM.

08-15-02, 12:56 PM	#7
netviper13 Treehugger Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 942	Although it might not be called nForce2, because they will have to completely change the motherboard for the Hammer chips.

08-15-02, 08:48 PM	#8
StealthHawk Guest Posts: n/a	Hammer isn't coming out this year. it was originally hoped by AMD that very small shipments in the thousands would be available in December. but that isn't the case now.

08-16-02, 01:21 AM	#9
intercede007 American Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Destin, Florida Posts: 331	The KT400 chipset is being unveiled at QuakeCon thats happening this weekend. VIA is one of the events sponsors. There is also rumors that the impending Barton core will appear as an XP 2800+ part with a 333mhz FSB. It will be interesting to see if the motherboard has any sort of official support for that kind of FSB speed. One can only hope. Personally, I'm kind of skeptical about the integrated northbridge on the Hammer. AMD has already had to go back to the drawing boards on it once. I'd be VERY interested in a 333MHZ XP system, considering that the Bartons are also going to have 512K of L2 cache. I could definatly hop onto that bandwagon until a year from now, when I have a little more confidence in the Hammer, or if Intel's Prescott core blows it out of the water. Hmm..kind of sounds like the R300, NV30 quandry all over again. Go with the goods now, or wait and see how it stacks up later? My $.02..cept for the K400 bit..thats fact

08-16-02, 06:04 AM	#10
StealthHawk Guest Posts: n/a	KT400 supports 166FSB, as do many KT333 mobos.

08-16-02, 07:56 AM	#11
TheOneKEA Fifteen-K Saiyan Bastard Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere in England, waiting for ROTK and drooling over the A64 3000+ Posts: 417	Yes, but the KT333 did not officially support a 166MHz clock for the CPU FSB. It only supported 166MHz for the memory FSB. The KT400 is supposed to have official support for a 166MHz FSB clock for the CPU.

08-16-02, 09:14 AM	#12
FastM GeForceFlop Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 545	Ya know i totaly agree with intercede007, a couple months ago the only upgrade i was considering was the NV30 and the Hammer, But i think AMD is going to be a little late with the Hammer series and the speed increase from moving up to a 333Mhz FSB should be pretty impressive.