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Old 05-13-07, 02:12 AM   #13
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Good for AMD, but I think Intel's gonna come up with a native 8-core Nehalem sometime in Mid 2008.
As a matter of fact, 4x4 platform is obviously going to be better than a native 8 core CPU.

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I don't trust that souce, not to mention AMD already said the chips would be ready by Christmas.
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QUARTER 3 for FX CPUs. Not quarter 4.
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Old 05-13-07, 02:17 AM   #14
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4 cores .... 8 cores ..... hell.... only just now are games coming out that use 2 cores! New tech always excites me, but the OS's and games need to catch up quickly.
I dont understand it myself tbh. Its all getting a bit silly. Soon we will have 24 core cpu's.
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Old 05-13-07, 02:32 AM   #15
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a12ctic and DMx are you brothers? or some weird side effect of some genetic experiment.

you just seem to be the same
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Old 05-13-07, 03:11 AM   #16
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a12ctic and DMx are you brothers? or some weird side effect of some genetic experiment.

you just seem to be the same
Uhh, I'm not a fanboy, I'm just excited on what I have heared so far.
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Old 05-13-07, 04:30 AM   #17
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Looks more like the later part of the Inq's statement...Late Q3...

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Barcelona is still at least a quarter away
If you read Anand's lateste article : http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2986&p=1

Anand would be a MUCH more reliable source, as he actually sat down with the CTO's of AMD to help put together the article :P
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Old 05-13-07, 04:40 AM   #18
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As a matter of fact, 4x4 platform is obviously going to be better than a native 8 core CPU.
Fact? You're a AMD fan boy aren't you? It's been proven that 4x4 with two dual-cores is slower and a single socket Core 2 Quad, so what makes you think two quad cores are gonna be better than a native oct-core? Not to mention Intel could have two Nehalem dies slapped togther to make 16-core.

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QUARTER 3 for FX CPUs. Not quarter 4.
Quarter 4 for the desktop parts.
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Claims+...rticle7232.htm
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Old 05-13-07, 06:03 AM   #19
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AMD Awesomness? No way. I never want to see AMD again. Intel CPU + Intel chipset = pure godness.

Some time ago, I bought my first AMD, X2 4400+, because I wanted NVIDIA SLI (2x6800, 2x7800, 2x7900, etc.) with dualcore, so Pentium D(ualcore) was not an option (NVIDIA chipsets for Intel are even worse than for AMD, if that is possible). Had 15+ Intel CPUs before.

X2 was more expensive than my current quadcore, Q6600, and performed really BAD in all things except games. I truly hated that CPU, while paying about $850 (including VAT) for it. For audio and video processing, it was a horrible CPU, worse than my previous P4 Northwood with HT, bought for $100, not to mention unstable NVIDIA nForce4-SLI(32) boards, SATA problems, NVIDIA firewall problems, X2 multitasking problems, etc.

I think only people without true 20+ years IT experience can "love" something as broken as AMD. AMD copied all Intel patents, due to their "exchange". They copied x86 instruction set, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, and many others. Intel was the first to come up with 64-bit Itanium, true new platform, while AMD came up with primitive x86_64 extension (basically just doubled registry, not really innovative). Their K7/K8 project was nothing more than a purchased NexGen CPU.

AMD was know for years as "unstable solution for poor people who cannot afford Intel". They had a lot of ads for Athlon 64/X2, and a lot of positive press from fanatics playing games and doing no real work, so I thought I give it a try, eventhough their CPU costed a small fortune. Never again, I am cured for my life from AMD "infection"...

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Old 05-13-07, 10:14 AM   #21
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AMD Awesomness? No way. I never want to see AMD again. Intel CPU + Intel chipset = pure godness.

Some time ago, I bought my first AMD, X2 4400+, because I wanted NVIDIA SLI (2x6800, 2x7800, 2x7900, etc.) with dualcore, so Pentium D(ualcore) was not an option (NVIDIA chipsets for Intel are even worse than for AMD, if that is possible). Had 15+ Intel CPUs before.

X2 was more expensive than my current quadcore, Q6600, and performed really BAD in all things except games. I truly hated that CPU, while paying about $850 (including VAT) for it. For audio and video processing, it was a horrible CPU, worse than my previous P4 Northwood with HT, bought for $100, not to mention unstable NVIDIA nForce4-SLI(32) boards, SATA problems, NVIDIA firewall problems, X2 multitasking problems, etc.

I think only people without true 20+ years IT experience can "love" something as broken as AMD. AMD copied all Intel patents, due to their "exchange". They copied x86 instruction set, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, and many others. Intel was the first to come up with 64-bit Itanium, true new platform, while AMD came up with primitive x86_64 extension (basically just doubled registry, not really innovative). Their K7/K8 project was nothing more than a purchased NexGen CPU.

AMD was know for years as "unstable solution for poor people who cannot afford Intel". They had a lot of ads for Athlon 64/X2, and a lot of positive press from fanatics playing games and doing no real work, so I thought I give it a try, eventhough their CPU costed a small fortune. Never again, I am cured for my life from AMD "infection"...

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People that make statements like this one and claim people to be fan boys are incredibly hypocritical. To even compare a P4 to a X2 is completely outrageous, in server, desktop, and gaming situations the X2 will win in EVERY benchmark. You can tell me "well my desktop feels smoother" give me proof, there is none except for blind approach to a company that monopolized cpu chips for dozens of years.
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Old 05-13-07, 10:28 AM   #22
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You can tell me "well my desktop feels smoother" give me proof,
I did own P4 3.2GHz (HT), Athlon 64 (3200+ Venice, while waiting for X2 4400+), X2 4400+, E6600, and now Q6600. I work on computer 98% of time, not playing games. You have obviously no experience of what is a good system, having 3000+ in your signature. You should learn.. Many teenagers are like this, having their 2nd cheap AMD system, donated by parents, they want to believe nothing is better.

Try running several ffdshow filters on you obsolete AMD, it will choke at 90% CPU utliization, while old P4 HT will fly at 20%. I did that (and hated AMD). Try video encoding. Try RAID. It will be unstable. Anything, except few games, is faster even on P4 HT than singlecore AMD. Add instability of AMD-platform chipsets, poor drivers, poor multitasking (remember late dualcore AMD drivers? Intel did not need any for stability), and you have a definitive looser (except for some teenagers playing games 100% of time and beleiving AMD propaganda, never actually having Intel).

If you really work on computer, not just play games, you need performance (delivered by C2D) and stability (delivered by P965/ICH8 chipset). AMD does not have any of these, X2 is slow, chipsets are behind Intel.
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