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Old 07-10-07, 11:21 AM   #37
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

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I also have a similar problem, x freezes, can still move the mouse, sometimes it unfreezes, sometimes it doesn't. I started a thread here. I think it is conflict between ndiswrapper and the nvidia drivers. Is anybody else using ndiswrapper? It could also be a problem only with multicore processors.
I'm not using ndiswrapper, but I do have a multicore processor (Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86GHz@1066 MHz FSB, 2 MB L2 Cache).

Anyone else have a similar architecture?
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Old 07-10-07, 11:35 AM   #38
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

Are you using frequency scaling (or are you on a laptop)? In this thread they suggest a solution: Try adding this to /etc/modprobe.d/options
Code:
options nvidia NVreg_RegistryDwords="PerfLevelSrc=0x2222"
But nobody seems te be knowing what it does

It's not exact the same problem (but my sreen sometimes flickers) and I get the same errors in dmesg, so it could be related.

I'm just trying it out will update when I know more.
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Old 07-10-07, 12:17 PM   #39
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

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Are you using frequency scaling (or are you on a laptop)?
I'm not on a laptop. It's an Asus P5NSLI Mobo, Intel Core2 Duo E6300 proc, with an Nvidia GeForce 7300 LE graphics card. (See my post on this thread for more setup details)

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In this thread they suggest a solution: Try adding this to /etc/modprobe.d/options
Code:
options nvidia NVreg_RegistryDwords="PerfLevelSrc=0x2222"
Since I'm not on a laptop and don't see any flicker, I'm not too sure if I should try this. My only symptom is a complete, random system hang with 100.14.11. 100.14.09 works perfectly for me.
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Old 07-11-07, 04:47 AM   #40
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My setup is Core 2 Duo 6600, GeForce 7300 LE and I get random freezes on Fedora 7. The problem started after I installed nVidia driver and ndiswrapper. It's a full system freeze, not only an X server freeze. I hope we can find some solution soon.
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Old 07-11-07, 05:06 AM   #41
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

I have a geforce 7200 go, on an a turion 64 x2.

I did the same thing as kyleki and installed the previous version (100.14.09) and now the system is running smooth. It looks like the changed something in the current driver that makes trouble on some set ups.

It's not a great sollution, but at least you can use 3d acceleration now. I would suggest you try the same.
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Old 07-11-07, 02:20 PM   #42
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

I've also experienced the random lock-ups associated with the 100.14.11 series. Complete hard-lock. No keyboard, no mouse, just frozen.

I'm running F7 x86_64 on a Geforce 7300GS, Althon64 X2 3800, Asus M2N-PV-VM mobo.

I downgraded my nvidia drivers to 96xx series, which are stable. I'll try the 100.14.09 series if I can find them in the Livna repo.

Otherwise, I'll wait until nvidia releases an update that fixes the problem they created in this version.

(now we know how those poor ATI users feel - stable drivers are soooo critical to maintaining loyal customers. I hope nvidia agrees).
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Old 07-12-07, 08:20 AM   #43
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

I have Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1,8GHz @ 3GHz (always ~40 C)
i have also Motherboard Asus P5N SLI (newest bios), and Geforce 8500GT,
but my system freezes ONLY when i have Composite Extension ON, and use compiz-fuze, now when i dont use composite and compiz, dont have lockups at all, but also dont have graphical effects :-)
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Old 07-14-07, 12:38 AM   #44
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

Hello,

I am new to this thread because of constant lockups with NVIDIA on my desktop. My daughter can lock the X-server in seconds at will with the latest driver. Even the earlier drivers can lock the system for seconds and one solid lock.

Yesterday, I tried an older kernel (9762) after reading that this should fix the problem. No success. But the lockups were not total and the machine would recover slowly.

In /var/log/messages I was getting this when the machine would go into a mini-lock. It is similar to what happens in the latest kernel.

Jul 12 20:07:33 eagle2 ker

nel: NVRM: Xid (0003:00): 8, Channel 00000002
Jul 12 20:07:33 eagle2 kernel: NVRM: Xid (0003:00): 30, L1 -> L0

I could watch messages and tell exactly when the machine froze, just from the logs.

I then ran strace of the application that froze and got numerous lines like this during the freeze.

sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
-----"------
gettimeofday({1184290901, 373055}, NULL) = 0

sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0

Then when things started working again.
gettimeofday({1184290909, 338863}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1184290909, 338910}, NULL) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc0104629, 0xbfa9528c) = 0
write(4, "\222\16\2\0\0\0\0\0", 8) = 8
read(4, "\1Kz\0\366E\0\0\330\27\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\ 0h\324"..., 32) = 32
read(4, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0!p\0\300\ 0\0\0"..., 71640) = 71
640
ioctl(5, 0xc020464f, 0xbfa83a50) = 0
munmap(0xb76aa000, 8093696) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc030464e, 0xbfa839e8) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 8093696, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 6, 0xc0000) = 0xb76aa000
ioctl(5, 0xc028465e, 0xbfa83984) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc020464f, 0xbfa83ad8) = 0
munmap(0xb7f64000, 4096) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc030464e, 0xbfa83aac) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 6, 0xd9001) = 0xb7f64000
ioctl(4, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
nanosleep({0, 2000000}, NULL) = 0
ioctl(6, 0xc0204638, 0xbfa9528c) = 0
write(4, "\222\17\7\0\0\0\0\0\200\0\0\0\1\0\0\0X\0\320\301\ 3\0\357"..., 28) = 28
read(4, "\1K{\0\366E\0\0\330\27\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\ 0h\324"..., 32) = 32
read(4, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0!p\0\300\ 0\0\0"..., 71640) = 71
640
ioctl(5, 0xc020464f, 0xbfa8397c) = 0
munmap(0xb76aa000, 8093696) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc030464e, 0xbfa83914) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 8093696, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 6, 0xc0000) = 0xb76aa000
ioctl(5, 0xc028465e, 0xbfa838b0) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc020464f, 0xbfa83a04) = 0
munmap(0xb7f64000, 4096) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc030464e, 0xbfa839d8) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 6, 0xd9001) = 0xb7f64000
ioctl(5, 0xc020464f, 0xbfa951f0) = 0
munmap(0xb72c3000, 266240) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc0104629, 0xbfa95208) = 0
ioctl(8, 0xc01046cf, 0xbfa95288) = 0
close(8) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc0104629, 0xbfa952a4) = 0
ioctl(9, 0xc01046cf, 0xbfa95288) = 0


And just before it froze up.

ioctl(5, 0xc0104659, 0xbfa9506c) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc020462b, 0xbfa95050) = 0
geteuid32() = 502
open("/dev/nvidia0", O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE) = 8
open("/proc/interrupts", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 9
fstat64(9, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7
4b5000
read(9, " CPU0 \n 0: "..., 1024) = 828
read(9, "", 1024) = 0
read(9, "", 1024) = 0
close(9) = 0
munmap(0xb74b5000, 4096) = 0
ioctl(8, 0xc01446ce, 0xbfa95078) = 0
geteuid32() = 502
open("/dev/nvidia0", O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE) = 9
open("/proc/interrupts", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 10
fstat64(10, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7
4b5000
read(10, " CPU0 \n 0: "..., 1024) = 828
read(10, "", 1024) = 0
read(10, "", 1024) = 0
close(10) = 0
munmap(0xb74b5000, 4096) = 0
ioctl(9, 0xc01446ce, 0xbfa95078) = 0
ioctl(8, 0xc0284644, 0xbfa9507c) = 0
ioctl(9, 0xc0284644, 0xbfa9507c) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc020462b, 0xbfa94f94) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc0304654, 0xbfa95118) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc0104659, 0xbfa95148) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc020462b, 0xbfa95140) = 0
ioctl(6, 0xc0184633, 0xbfa9519c) = 0
ioctl(6, 0xc0304627, 0xbfa94e58) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 1048576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 6, 0xd4154) = 0xb73b6000
ioctl(5, 0xc0384657, 0xbfa94ec0) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc088464a, 0xbfa94eb4) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc0384657, 0xbfa94e20) = 0
ioctl(5, 0xc030464e, 0xbfa94e2c) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 266240, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, 6, 0xcfbad) = 0xb72c3000
ioctl(5, 0xc028465e, 0xbfa94dc8) = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
write(4, "\222\30\4\0\0\0\0\0\2270\357\276\0\0\0\0", 16) = 16
read(4, "\1K~\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0h\3 24\372"..., 32) = 32
gettimeofday({1184290909, 373035}, NULL) = 0
ioctl(4, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
nanosleep({0, 2000000}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1184290909, 380574}, NULL) = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0
sched_yield() = 0

And it is frozen again.


Looking at multiple traces, this is common.

I will have to try this with the latest NVIDA driver and see if these are the same error messages.

GF FX 5600 video card

I will also make sure that I update everything that I can before reporting back. I believe the application that my daughter was running was Supertuxkart. I am using an earlier driver because the lockups are not as severe and regular.
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Old 07-14-07, 06:39 AM   #45
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

I'm having the same freezing problems with 100.14.11 in 64 bit Debian with 2.6.21 and 2.6.22 kernels.

The entire system freezes within a few minutes of watching videos and
requires a hard reboot; reverting back to 100.14.09 fixes the problem.

System: ABIT KN9-S, Athlon X2 64 3600+, 2x512MB DDR2, Geforce 7300 GS and 4 drive SATA RAID5 array.
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Old 07-14-07, 08:20 AM   #46
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I am still testing this but I think I may have found the solution and it has nothing to do with module options or xorg.conf options. I have an amd64 system with multiprocessor cpu running gentoo. As soon as I got to thinking this might be the problem I compiled two kernels identically with just a difference in schedulers, One with the commonly used cfq and the other with the old default anticipatory. The cfq kernel definitely freezes if left alone, return from screensavers and either no return to desktop or mouse movement with frozen screen, the anticipatory since yesterday afternoon does not, absolutely not a single freeze or delay. I am still testing but you should try to see if it changes anything on your computer. To boot a stock kernel with the anticipatory scheduler, add elevator=as to your kernel boot line.
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Old 07-14-07, 09:15 AM   #47
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

As 'random freezes' can be caused by any number of problems, ranging from faulty hardware to BIOS bugs to kernel bugs to NVIDIA driver bugs, it would be in the best interest of those experiencing them to start new threads so that completely different problems do not get lumped together.

Please make sure to include an nvidia-bug-report.log, details of how to trigger the problem and be sure to read all the forum sticky posts.

thanks,
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Old 07-14-07, 02:05 PM   #48
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Lonnie, with all due respect, I have always bought Nvidia, and for a long time the original linux drivers worked relatively well, a few oddball problems but not the problems of today, I had been very happy but honestly, If someone is to spend several hundred dollars for a video card as I have on several, We should have some assistance from Nvidia with regards to Linux drivers, not only the driver but also the implementation of the driver on the system. Admittedly, I believe Nvidia has given the linux community alot of help with what theyve done till now but In my opinion ,Nvidia has to do more with regards to providing recommendations as to the implementation of the driver, xorg.conf guidelines and kernel config guidelines to get systems working. I have now had my new kernel running with the anticipatory scheduler instead of cfq for almost 24 hrs with no freezeups or delays whatsoever and I am becoming surer and surer that this was my problem. Nvidia should spend more time running linux systems in order to try to get these glitches worked out.
I'm not saying I'm mad at Nvidia as I will continue to support Nvidia over ATI but it would sure be nice if Nvidia could support us linux users just a little bit more.

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