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Old 08-11-07, 08:18 PM   #61
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

I have AMD64 3000+ (so no dual core) and similar issues. My card is GF7300GT 128MB DDR3 on AGPX8. As somebody pointed out here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=96077 I noticed flashing caps-lock and scroll-lock leds too. Freezes happen mostly while using 3D applications. I have also problems with running AmericasArmy 2.5 game because FPS are extremely low (its hard to move) and some textures look terrible or are missing. Here are few examples :
http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ot00012wo1.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ot00013zl0.jpg
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Old 08-12-07, 04:01 AM   #62
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maxcpus=1 works for me. I've been up for over 20 hours without a single problem, and the log file doesn't show any of those nasty
NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 16, Head 00000001 Count 00011617
messages. Try it without the "idle=poll".
Well, it is fairly obvious our problems are not entirely alike, since you get kernel crashes only after a little while - you mentioned you even had time to rsh in from another comp. That is definitely not possible when my comp crashes. It locks up totally and doesn't respond to anything. Also, the only NVRM messages I have in the system log are
Aug 12 10:39:45 localhost kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 100.14.11 Wed Jun 13 18:21:22 PDT 2007
Nothing else.
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Old 08-14-07, 03:14 PM   #63
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

My setup:

* Dual quad-core Intel system
* Redhat Enterprise 4 Update 3 - 64-bit 2.6.9 SMP kernel
* Quadro FX 5600
* NVIDIA driver version 100.14.11

Like others in this thread, I am also experiencing freezes. But for me, the symptom is not random. I can reproduce this all the time.

The simplest way to reproduce the freeze is to run glxgears. The glxgears window appears, the gears spin for less than 1 second, and then stops. At this point, glxgears is at 100% CPU usage. I can sometimes kill the process from a remote shell, but not always.

/var/log/messages reports:

kernel: NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 6, PE0001
kernel: NVRM: Xid (0008:00): 30, L1 -> L0

If I run "strace glxgears", I get an output similar to that posted by MeSat in this thread. Basically, glxgears is repeatedly calling sched_yield().

On applications other than glxgears, the freeze is usually unrecoverable. A lot of the time, the system will even reboot itself too.

I've added "elevator=as maxcpus=1 idle=poll pci=nommconf" to the kernel boot options but the symptom is exactly the same.

I switched to a 32-bit kernel (same RHEL distribution, same hardware) and do NOT see this problem. I also switched to using a Quadro FX 1500 card (64-bit kernel) and do NOT see this problem. But I need to use a 64-bit kernel with an FX 5600 for its CUDA capabilities.

If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks!
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Old 08-17-07, 03:29 PM   #64
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

I'm also having this problem. Its getting a little annoying.

My /var/log/messages reports:

Code:
Aug 18 20:21:57 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 8, Channel 00000001
Aug 18 20:21:57 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 30,  L1 -> L0
Aug 18 20:21:57 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 6, PE0001 
Aug 18 20:21:57 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 30,  L0 -> L0
Aug 18 20:22:04 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 13, 0003 00000000 00008297 000015e0 00000000 00000040
Aug 18 20:22:06 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 8, Channel 00000001
Aug 18 20:22:14 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 8, Channel 00000001
Aug 18 20:22:14 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 6, PE0001 
Aug 18 20:22:22 main kernel: NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 8, Channel 00000001
The system spec:

CPU: AMD 64 X2 4800+
M/B: ASRock Alive Sata 2 GLan
Memory: 2 x 1GB DDR2 667 in dual channel mode
GPU: ASUS Nvidia 8500GT Silent.
OS: Fedora 7 32 bit.

This has only really been a problem today for me, I have had system crashes before, but today, for no reason I can see its crashed about 5 times, all in random programs. I would post an Nvidia crash log, but my system locks up and has to be rebooted with the reset button. It always has the above error when it crashes though, sometimes a little less. Strangely, the system is still running in the back ground, but no graphics, after a few minutes the monitor will switch to power saving mode and shut off.

Edit:

After thinking

I've now included an nvidia log report. Its taken while the system is up and running, but after seeing the info it contains I can see how it could be usefull
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Old 08-21-07, 11:07 PM   #65
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Well, this is becoming a real problem. Last night I did some tests using the actual driver from nvidia. I followed the instructions and installed the bin file.

All my previous experience was with either the Livna or Freshrpms driver. FWIW, the Freshrpms driver doesn't cause any lockups, only some video distortion.

I ran three different tests of the nvidia_bug_report.sh script when problems were occurring. As a reference, I also ran the script with no issues, hopefully as a reference.

Default_working is with no issues and basically a desktop with NOAPIC.

GLXGEARS is with APIC running and just running glxgears in a terminal window. Screen was distorted and flashing with some control. I eventually could kill glxgears with CTRL+C or CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE

FREEZE is a total freeze of the screen/keyboard. No action or control. This was GLXGEARS but trying to enter more via the keyboard.

GLXGEARS_NOAPIC was the same tests done with APIC off. I couldn't freeze the system in anyway. At least it prevents lockups. My kids didn't report any major issues other than the screen flickers which are a real pain.

I hope this information will assist in getting the nvidia drivers to work with the latest kernels. Either by pointing the kernel developers to the issue or with a change in the driver code to work.

At present, I cannot promote Nvidia for a new Linux computer due to this issue. Because of the closed source nature of this driver, I cannot get any support from the Fedora team. I don't like being stuck in the middle.
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Old 08-21-07, 11:26 PM   #66
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Default Re: Random freezes on Fedora 7

Have you verified that you're using the latest motherboard BIOS?
Does setting NvAGP to 0 in xorg.conf have any impact?
Does disabling the Composite extension in xorg.conf have any impact?
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Old 08-23-07, 02:27 AM   #67
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2 All who have dual core CPU (X2, Core DUO). Try "maxcpus=1" kernel boot options. If this help, get older driver. Read this: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...8&postcount=12

And please write about results.
I was have the same problems but with Fedora Core 1. What I was make you can read by the link. After this system became "rock solid".
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Old 08-23-07, 02:13 PM   #68
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After a few more crashes I decied I may as well upgrade my fedora to 64-bit. Since the upgrade, using Livna drivers (I like the easy updetes), I've not had a crash. I really can't say if I've changed anything else, but can't test any of the above options at the moment. I will post back should I get the same problem.
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Old 08-23-07, 08:39 PM   #69
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Originally Posted by netllama
Have you verified that you're using the latest motherboard BIOS?
Does setting NvAGP to 0 in xorg.conf have any impact?
Does disabling the Composite extension in xorg.conf have any impact?
I am using the latest mother board BIOS. My MB is old that it isn't getting any new ones.

I added the option NvAGP 0 to the xorg.conf

I added "AllowGLXWithComposite" "Off" for the composite (may be wrong) but this is the only search I could find on the term Composite for the test I was running. I now see that this kills glx so I will try a different option as I cannot do my glxgears crash test.

Change xorg.conf and reboot and test.
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Old 08-23-07, 08:59 PM   #70
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I am using the latest mother board BIOS. My MB is old that it isn't getting any new ones.

I added the option NvAGP 0 to the xorg.conf

I added "AllowGLXWithComposite" "Off" for the composite (may be wrong) but this is the only search I could find on the term Composite for the test I was running. I now see that this kills glx so I will try a different option as I cannot do my glxgears crash test.

Change xorg.conf and reboot and test.
I made the changes and rebooted. Xorg doesn't go to 95%+ but my screen goes black. I will go over my settings and confirm that everything is within specs for my monitor and video card. I feel more positive now.

If NvAGP should be set to 0, then it should be done with the installer.

I have to order a new computer in the next couple of days (business days) I I need to spec a video card.
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Old 08-23-07, 09:03 PM   #71
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NvAGP should only be set to 0 to debug or address a problem.

If you need further assistance, please generate and attach a new nvidia-bug-report.log.
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Old 08-24-07, 08:27 AM   #72
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My system has been locking up again, trying the suggested fixes. Have tried most apart from the disabling dual core option and it now freezes even more.

Now when it freezes however, it sometimes reloads x-server, but the graphics are all messed up. Same errors are reported as before in my system log.

Not been able to get an up time of more than 30 minutes.

This is a new card (about a week old) could it be faulty?

Will try disable the second core, not really a good option as I have some image editing/rendering to do for a website, but not able to get any done with the lockups.




AMD 64 X2 4800+
2GB RAM DDR2 667
ASRock ALive Gbit Motherboard
ASUS NVIDIA 8500GT Silent
Fedora 7 X86_64

My fedora smolt profile : http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/show?...d-3596ba94faff
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