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Old 08-19-07, 09:40 PM   #25
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I don't want to start a flame war either, but: "optimizing" for space is vain.

C'mon, today's harddisks are big enough for more than "just" one operating system.
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Old 08-20-07, 04:03 AM   #26
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It is worth it. When I compared an optimized one on P3-703 to an unoptimized one on P3-1066, the slower comp easily outran the faster one. The difference was truly noticable!

Also my biggest HD is 40gb, and I have better use for my space than spending 15gb on *cough*vista*cough*
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Old 08-20-07, 04:39 AM   #27
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It is worth it. When I compared an optimized one on P3-703 to an unoptimized one on P3-1066, the slower comp easily outran the faster one. The difference was truly noticable!
Being the sceptic I am, would you mind giving out the details? What application(s) gain the best performance boost? What architectures were the executables compiled for?

I understand that compiling for i686 or x86_64 will give you an edge over i386 for certain (multimedia related) tasks, but generally speaking... I haven't really experimented with "ordinary" applications.
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Old 08-21-07, 10:01 AM   #28
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Both systems were base LFS, on the 1066 it was unoptimized, on the 703 everything was compiled just for it, with "-O3 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer".

The difference was not just in some apps, it was in all. Login was faster. Bash ran faster. Boot was the same, because both systems had optimized kernels though. Compiling was faster (and the gcc was not optimized with profiles, which makes it about 9% faster than normal builds). I can not try any more apps, since I've rebuilt my base sys (the one on the P3-1066) a couple of times, and it's also fully optimized now. But compiling is a lot more cpu-intensive than media playing, it takes everything a cpu got.

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Old 08-22-07, 08:39 AM   #29
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compiled -- with "-O3 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer"

The difference was not just in some apps, it was in all. Login was faster. Bash ran faster.
Well, I decided to run a couple of tests myself. From what I learned, optimising for athlon-xp (or i686) instead of i386 will get you around 15% performance boost with processing multimedia content, but for amd64 it's not worth it.

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Old 09-20-07, 06:15 PM   #30
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I'm running Slackware on my desktop (it's the only Linux distro I havn't got fed up with) and FreeBSD on everything else (I'd completely do away with Linux in favour for BSD if I could)
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Old 11-27-07, 10:46 PM   #31
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in may 2004 I answered the same question: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=332155
In the meantime... I'm still using TFM (only that the version is now 3.1) and playing around with other stuff, mainly LFS, Gentoo and Mandriva.
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Gentoo 2007.0 x86_64, stage 1 compilation.... took a lot of my time to have the system as it is now... and archlinux, amazingly fast and nice package management, the only problem I encounter is the quantity of the packages in Arch, it lacks a lot of packages that gentoo has, but it will improve in the future..I hope.
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Old 11-28-07, 09:17 AM   #33
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Gentoo 2007.0 x86_64, stage 1 compilation.... took a lot of my time to have the system as it is now... and archlinux, amazingly fast and nice package management, the only problem I encounter is the quantity of the packages in Arch, it lacks a lot of packages that gentoo has, but it will improve in the future..I hope.
You could always write your own PKGBUILDS.
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You could always write your own PKGBUILDS.

That´s true, I have to read about the ABS system, but now don´t have much time for it
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That´s true, I have to read about the ABS system, but now don´t have much time for it
You could of course always check the AUR first before writing your own PKGBUILD. There are almost 8000 packages in the AUR, so there's a chance your software's there.
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You could of course always check the AUR first before writing your own PKGBUILD. There are almost 8000 packages in the AUR, so there's a chance your software's there.
Yes I had seen one hour ago, but it handles well the dependencies? or you have to install before doing the PKGBUIKD?
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