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Old 05-23-03, 06:26 AM   #49
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The drivers aint the problem boys.

I have a 900mhz amd athlon with Leadtek geforce 2 MX 400 64MB

and frames are:
5856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1171.200 FPS
5760 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1152.000 FPS
5924 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1184.800 FPS
6426 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1285.200 FPS

i think you guys didnt install the drivers the goodway. Anyhow your colors have to be on 16bit cause using 24bit or more disables your 3D on the system. is this the problem??

Did you guys uninstalled the old or dummy nvidia drivers before installing the new official ones??
have you entered the "switch2nvidia" with root on your console??

Try a 3Ddiag and c what i tells you.
I wiped clean and installed RH 9 twice.
uninstalled and install the driver many times.
even changed motherboard and video card.
Nvidia drivers can do 3D in 16 and 24bit in linux
16bit for me is only 700fps
something is really weird.
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Old 05-23-03, 05:16 PM   #50
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Anyhow your colors have to be on 16bit cause using 24bit or more disables your 3D on the system.
Then, pray tell, how do I have 3D acceleration? I run 24-bit color.

This was true on 3dfx boards (you needed 16-bit color on them). It is not true on anything else that I know of, definitely not nVidia boards.

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have you entered the "switch2nvidia" with root on your console??

Try a 3Ddiag and c what i tells you.
Both switch2nvidia and 3Ddiag are SuSE-specific programs. If they aren't running SuSE, they can't use them.
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Old 05-24-03, 01:32 PM   #51
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The drivers aint the problem boys.
I'd bet it is a driver(s) issue. Not necessarily down to the actual gfx driver itself; I do not have the kernel-hardcore expertise to track down in what subsystem the bottleneck is. Could be a combo of certain hardware/drivers or such as well.

All I know is that my Nvidia card is performing thousands of % better in my dual-boot Windows than in Linux, no matter if I try to tweak it (bpp, size of RAM and so on and so forth). It will be quite interesting to see what I get when I install my Geforce 5600 next week.

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Old 05-25-03, 12:28 AM   #52
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I'm having the same slowdowns. I've got an Asus A7N266-VM (nForce chipset) with an Athlon 1600+, Debian unstable with kernel 2.4.21-pre5. Someone else posted nvclock output earlier and had memory more than 3 times as fast as mine. Anyone know why mine is so slow? DDR shouldn't be running at 50MHz. Also, it would help if people posted resolution and bit depth, as that has a major effect on glxgears output. Switching from 1600x1200x32 to 320x240x32 glxgears more than doubled. Still less than what it ought to be though.

[nvclock]
=======================
--- NvClock v0.6.2 ---
=======================

-- General info --
Card: nVidia Geforce 2 MX integrated
PCI id: 0x1a0
GPU speed: 174.997 MHz
Bustype: AGP

-- Memory info --
Amount: 70 MB
Type: 128 bit DDR
Speed: 49.914 MHz

-- AGP info --
Status: Enabled
Rate: 4X
AGP rates: 1X 4X
Fast Writes: Supported, Disabled
SBA: Unsupported, Disabled

[glxgears] (at 1600x1200x32)
1498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 299.600 FPS
1478 frames in 5.0 seconds = 295.600 FPS
1461 frames in 5.0 seconds = 292.200 FPS

Edit:
I overclocked the core speed to 180 and got about a 15fps boost in glxgears. It won't let me overclock the memory though. That may be because the card uses the system memory. Anyone know how to overclock system RAM?

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Old 06-02-03, 02:37 AM   #53
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My GeForce2 MX200 is also very slow. I used to get 50-70 fps in half-life on windows and over 450 fps in glxgears in linux using my V3 3500. Now I get 10-20 FPS in half-life on windows an 200-300 fps in glxgears on linux.

I really hopes someone (nvidia) finds a solution to the problem, since I have tried everything I can think of (exept replacing the card).
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Old 06-04-03, 12:37 PM   #54
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My name is Neil and I am a cognitive psychologist. I use XFree86 with the NVidia driver and Mesa to program millisecond accuracy reaction time psychophysics experiments. I read this thread with some interest.

After upgrading to RH9 and installing 1.0-4363 my experiment programs were no longer able to update the screen every video frame, but instead only managed every other frame or every third. All of my hardware remained the same.

I eventually found that changing the colour depth from 24 to 16 bits in /etc/X11/XF86Config restored performance. I am not sure why this is the case, but I though it might be useful to you.

I am using:
nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4363
XFree86-4.3.0-2

/proc/drivers/nvidia/cards
Model: GeForce2 MX 100/200
IRQ: 10
Video BIOS: 03.11.01.26.00
Card Type: AGP

/proc/driver/nvidia/status
Status: Enabled
Driver: AGPGART
AGP Rate: 4x
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Disabled
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Old 06-14-03, 10:44 PM   #55
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Here is tenmillion benchmark program originally written for SGI. you can get it from http://www.evl.uic.edu/pape/CAVE/linux/speed/
and also compare your results there.

It would be great if you can post your results here to help diagnose the problem.

I was hoping this program might assist in finding the performance problem with the drivers for MX cards on some systems. With this program the results of GF2 mx came out correctly compared to the TNT. with area=3 23Mtri/s and 4Mtri/s respectively. On the other hand TNT runs faster with glxgears and same performance to GF2 mx with other apps. This is really weird. May be to do with the AGP driver whether Nvidia or agpgart? don't really know.

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Old 06-15-03, 06:36 PM   #56
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Default tenmillion benchmarks

I ran tenmillion at both 24 bit and 16 bit, and there's a huge difference. It performs about 2.5x as well at 16 bit than at 24 bit.
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Old 06-15-03, 08:43 PM   #57
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I ran tenmillion at both 24 bit and 16 bit, and there's a huge difference. It performs about 2.5x as well at 16 bit than at 24 bit.
I don't think your system have a problem because you ran at 1600x1200x24 desktop resolution and you got 2Mtri/s. I got 2Mtri/s at 1024x768x24. If you switch to same resoution as mine I bet yours are heaps faster and performing correctly.
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Old 06-17-03, 01:44 PM   #58
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hi there...

I've got the same probleme...

kernel 2.4.21
nf7-s
amd 1700+
512 ddr
Leadtech Geforce 2mx

and ~600 fps in glxgears.

but, as I never play, it's not a probleme for me

now, have a look in this threads :

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...&threadid=8471

plz note, on the end of the thread :

Quote:
I found What what wrong!!

Is a kernel issue!!

I boot with the paramater

code:acpi=off



and now my FPS are at ~3000!!!!!!!!!!!!

before they where ~500

but .. if I boot with that kernel parameter I DONT HAVE SOUND...... AND NO WIRELESS INTERNET CARD....


so is a question ... of SOUND or VIDEO
and

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EVEN BETTER!!!!

I just compiled the kernel 2.5.64!!!!

and all my stuf work!!!

video ~3000FPS

sound! alsa! great

wireless is working great!!!

IM SO HAPPY!!

it was a kernel problem!!

hope it will help ...

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Old 06-17-03, 03:59 PM   #59
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Default tests:

I have yet to test with acpi=off, but here are my previous tests. All tests are run after reboot, "clean" system except for the applications running.

Geforce4 MX 440,
Athlon tbird 1.4GHz
Via KT400 chipset <--problem??

24/32 bit
glxgears: normal window
tenmillion area=100 texture light zbuffer


No AGP:
glxgears 730.400 FPS
geometry rate: 488513 triangles/sec
fill rate: 48.851 Mpixels/sec

AGPGART (4x)
3656 frames in 5.0 seconds = 731.200 FPS
geometry rate: 486562 triangles/sec
fill rate: 48.656 Mpixels/sec

NVIDIA AGP(4x)
3671 frames in 5.0 seconds = 734.200 FPS
geometry rate: 488642 triangles/sec
fill rate: 48.864 Mpixels/sec


--
Note, theres virtually no difference between the drivers used for AGP (The difference you see fall down as statistical noise) and this would be the problem as I can tell it.

Bios is set as force 4x AGP mode (Linux has no agp8x support in 2.4 series)


So really, should there be no change between drivers, or is something quite messy here?
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Old 06-17-03, 09:23 PM   #60
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hi there...

I've got the same probleme...

kernel 2.4.21
nf7-s
amd 1700+
512 ddr
Leadtech Geforce 2mx

and ~600 fps in glxgears.

but, as I never play, it's not a probleme for me

now, have a look in this threads :

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...&threadid=8471

plz note, on the end of the thread :



and




hope it will help ...

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Thanks, but I already been through that thread.
I don't have acpi enable in the bios and I don't have enabled in the kernel either. I tried boot with acpi=off with no difference. acpi=off probably only works for laptop.
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